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Originally Posted by
CoachT14
What was Strong's winning %?
What about what Sark's is currently?
Outside of Mack Brown, he's the highest winning % since 1986. 4th highest since 1950.
It's hilarious how ill-informed some of you are about Herman.
Ok, so he should have the same winning % here then?? Is that what you're saying? I did my research, he won 64% of his games at Texas. That's a fact.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Ok, so he should have the same winning % here then?? Is that what you're saying? I did my research, he won 64% of his games at Texas. That's a fact.
I asked you a question. You can ignore it all you want because it pokes holes in your narrative.
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Originally Posted by
CoachT14
You'd have to have Herman, Lebby, Briles or someone of that QB whisperer stature to get him and pay out the wazzuu. It's possible. Not with Zach Croom. No QB worth his salt is coming to play for this ignoramus.
We will spend heavily in the portal this year for several positions and spend for a QB, but we won't be a player for him no matter who our coach is.
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Originally Posted by
KB21
That's a random name. I'm curious as to why you think we might hear that name being thrown around soon?
There are already speculations he will be back this season. Lower level HC or possibly a P5 OC
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
We will spend heavily in the portal this year for several positions and spend for a QB, but we won't be a player for him no matter who our coach is.
We can throw all the money in the world around. Just like with recruiting, no one is coming to play for Sly Arnett.
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Originally Posted by
CoachT14
We can throw all the money in the world around. Just like with recruiting, no one is coming to play for Sly Arnett.
Again, it won't matter who the coach is, we won't be a player for him just by pure financials and overall needs.
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Originally Posted by
CoachT14
What was Strong's winning %?
What about what Sark's is currently?
Outside of Mack Brown, he's the highest winning % since 1986. 4th highest since 1950.
It's hilarious how ill-informed some of you are about Herman.
Don't tell them that Lane Kiffin won 65% of his games at USC and was fired. Sarkisian won 67% of his games and was fired at USC. He won 54% of his games at Washington. Clay Helton won 66% of his games at USC. So, based on the measure we are using to say that Tom Herman was a failure at Texas with their resources, you can say the same about these coaches. Lane Kiffin is now kicking our tail and pushing to make us irrelevant unless we make changes. Sarkisian is the apple of the eye of the college football world even though he's won a fewer percentage of his games at Texas as Tom Herman did. Clay Helton will probably get another shot at a P5 job after this season.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Again, it won't matter who the coach is, we won't be a player for him just by pure financials and overall needs.
I'm talking about just in general. No decent portal player is coming to play for Arnett.
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Originally Posted by
KB21
Don't tell them that Lane Kiffin won 65% of his games at USC and was fired. Sarkisian won 67% of his games and was fired at USC. He won 54% of his games at Washington. Clay Helton won 66% of his games at USC. So, based on the measure we are using to say that Tom Herman was a failure at Texas with their resources, you can say the same about these coaches. Lane Kiffin is now kicking our tail and pushing to make us irrelevant unless we make changes. Sarkisian is the apple of the eye of the college football world even though he's won a fewer percentage of his games at Texas as Tom Herman did. Clay Helton will probably get another shot at a P5 job after this season.
Sark being fired at USC Had nothing to do with his win / loss record though, to be fair. That had everything to do with his drinking problem.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Sark being fired at USC Had nothing to do with his win / loss record though, to be fair. That had everything to do with his drinking problem.
Just as Tom Herman getting fired at Texas has nothing to do with his record.
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Originally Posted by
CoachT14
I'm talking about just in general. No decent portal player is coming to play for Arnett.
Well I responded to:
"You'd have to have Herman, Lebby, Briles or someone of that QB whisperer stature to get him and pay out the wazzuu. It's possible."
You were talking about him specifically and it won't be possible no matter who the coach is. We just won't be a player for him.
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Originally Posted by
KB21
Just as Tom Herman getting fired at Texas has nothing to do with his record.
I don't disagree with that. Losing multiple high profile commitments, especially Ewers a top QB and lifelong Longhorn fan, his host players recruiting against him with prospects during visits, players going to the AD about him, disconnect with him and the players, admin and boosters. It was all external. Except maybe the Oklahoma losses probably had a little to do with it.
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Originally Posted by
CoachT14
I asked you a question. You can ignore it all you want because it pokes holes in your narrative.
Sorry missed the question. Strong's was 43%. No dude I'm not like the rest of these clowns on your side that dodge and deflect. Didn't know I was trying to hire Charlie strong. The worst couch in Texas history.
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Originally Posted by
KB21
Clay Helton will probably get another shot at a P5 job after this season.
This is why we need to make a move, you have two HCs with success at the highest levels available and both would likely jump at the chance to get in the SEC, even at MSU. It's proven you can win at MSU, with a 12 team playoff coming, you can make that from MSU, OM, Mizz, UK, USCe or Ark. Not implying you'd have long term 10 win seasons, but you can make the playoff when everything lines up.
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Originally Posted by
KB21
Just as Tom Herman getting fired at Texas has nothing to do with his record.
And you still want him????
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
And you still want him????
He's on the list. He's had success as a head coach. He has a history of being a very bright offensive mind. He's not going to play big dumb offensive football. He's the guy that helped modernize Urban Meyer's offense at Ohio State. He's still young enough and smart enough to adapt to the changes that are happening in college football. He is a guy who, with is IQ level, will embrace the use of analytics.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Sorry missed the question. Strong's was 43%. No dude I'm not like the rest of these clowns on your side that dodge and deflect. Didn't know I was trying to hire Charlie strong. The worst couch in Texas history.
You forget that he's better than Sark too? Or John Mackovic? or David McWilliams?
Texas Coaches with the Highest winning % since 1950:
1. Darrell Royal
2. Mack Brown
3. Fred Akers
4. Tom Herman
Out of 9 coaches since 1950.
Last edited by CoachT14; 11-03-2023 at 10:17 AM.
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I'd take Tom Herman in a heartbeat. He has won at a high level. He has a big time personality. We would be lucky to have him.
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Originally Posted by
defiantdog
Scott Frost is a name you might hear being thrown around soon.

Originally Posted by
KB21
That's a random name. I'm curious as to why you think we might hear that name being thrown around soon?
His agent is getting "feelers." I doubt we're interested but it may turn into something.
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Originally Posted by
CoachT14
You forget that he's better than Sark too? Or John Mackovic? or David McWilliams?
Texas Coaches with the Highest winning % since 1950:
1. Darrell Royal
2. Mack Brown
3. Fred Akers
4. Tom Herman
Out of 9 coaches since 1950.
Sark hasn't been there 4 years yet. So I'll let him finish his 4th Before I compare the two. Good chance he pushes Herman to 5th on the list. Which would make him avg at Texas. Great.
Last edited by Homedawg; 11-03-2023 at 11:15 AM.
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