I have a question for you geniuses

[Coach34]

I keep seeing all this bluster that we are going to fire Arnett and company. Threads already popping up about possible replacements and such. You guys did this during baseball when some of us kept telling you Lemon wasnt going to be fired and get another year. We saw what happened. Boosters told the AD he had permission to fire Fox but he wasnt getting the money to fire Lemon and the rest of the staff. The same is happening now- people that know people think Arnett is going to get a Y2.

Couple that with the bluster that Boosters are controlling things and glad to have their "ground and pound" guys on staff that are in Arnett's ear bears the question:

What makes you think those guys are going to give up that control after 1 season? What makes you think they are going to pony up to buyout Arnett? The AD doesnt fire anybody without permission from Keenum and the Foundation who have to pay the buyout. We dont have buyout money in our athletic budget. That money comes from the Foundation and/or private funds thru Keenum

[R2Dawg]

Agree CZA gets one more year but he must make some changes and turn it around. Even if we don't get 6 this year, he needs some positive energy ending the season. Win 6 and well, that is the floor starting next year.

Next year it is put up or go home either way. 6 or more wins next year to keep job - period.

[KB21]

1. Arnett's buyout is not costly to Mississippi State.
2. He's not a national championship winning coach.
3. Season ticket sales will hit a historical low if he is retained.
4. Good luck recruiting any skill players to play in this shit offense.

[Cooterpoot]

Baseball was about the pitching coach. He got fired. People thought we should make a change, but that's about it. This situation is in no way like that situation where a Natty was on the table and the coach had been here in place awhile. Selmon can't sit back after the whole baseball deal either. The fans will be done with all this if he does. And I should've prefaced all that with Arnett still can change this. He just has to win games.

[RezDog7]

I keep seeing all this bluster that we are going to fire Arnett and company. Threads already popping up about possible replacements and such. You guys did this during baseball when some of us kept telling you Lemon wasnt going to be fired and get another year. We saw what happened. Boosters told the AD he had permission to fire Fox but he wasnt getting the money to fire Lemon and the rest of the staff. The same is happening now- people that know people think Arnett is going to get a Y2.

Couple that with the bluster that Boosters are controlling things and glad to have their "ground and pound" guys on staff that are in Arnett's ear bears the question:

What makes you think those guys are going to give up that control after 1 season? What makes you think they are going to pony up to buyout Arnett? The AD doesnt fire anybody without permission from Keenum and the Foundation who have to pay the buyout. We dont have buyout money in our athletic budget. That money comes from the Foundation and/or private funds thru Keenum

If we don't win an SEC game and still keep Arnett, we're not serious about football and might as well just change our name to MSU commodores. We are on the brink of irrelevance as it is now.

[BoomBoom]

I keep seeing all this bluster that we are going to fire Arnett and company. Threads already popping up about possible replacements and such. You guys did this during baseball when some of us kept telling you Lemon wasnt going to be fired and get another year. We saw what happened. Boosters told the AD he had permission to fire Fox but he wasnt getting the money to fire Lemon and the rest of the staff. The same is happening now- people that know people think Arnett is going to get a Y2.

Couple that with the bluster that Boosters are controlling things and glad to have their "ground and pound" guys on staff that are in Arnett's ear bears the question:

What makes you think those guys are going to give up that control after 1 season? What makes you think they are going to pony up to buyout Arnett? The AD doesnt fire anybody without permission from Keenum and the Foundation who have to pay the buyout. We dont have buyout money in our athletic budget. That money comes from the Foundation and/or private funds thru Keenum

Those people are assuming what we are seeing (a crap product) will continue throughout the season and including the Egg Bowl. And maybe it will, if so yes he'll be fired, because the money guys will want it too by then. But maybe it won't. If he puts up a good show to finish the season, he'll get year 2.

[DownwardDawg]

1. Arnett's buyout is not costly to Mississippi State.
2. He's not a national championship winning coach.
3. Season ticket sales will hit a historical low if he is retained.
4. Good luck recruiting any skill players to play in this shit offense.

5. Arnett just hired Sexton. Contract negotiations get a lot more complicated. Cut bait.

[KB21]

5. Arnett just hired Sexton. Contract negotiations get a lot more complicated. Cut bait.

6. Zac Selmon didn't hire him, and he's a young AD (37) who is wanting to make a name for himself.

[BlackSailsDawg]

I keep seeing all this bluster that we are going to fire Arnett and company. Threads already popping up about possible replacements and such. You guys did this during baseball when some of us kept telling you Lemon wasnt going to be fired and get another year. We saw what happened. Boosters told the AD he had permission to fire Fox but he wasnt getting the money to fire Lemon and the rest of the staff. The same is happening now- people that know people think Arnett is going to get a Y2.

Couple that with the bluster that Boosters are controlling things and glad to have their "ground and pound" guys on staff that are in Arnett's ear bears the question:

What makes you think those guys are going to give up that control after 1 season? What makes you think they are going to pony up to buyout Arnett? The AD doesnt fire anybody without permission from Keenum and the Foundation who have to pay the buyout. We dont have buyout money in our athletic budget. That money comes from the Foundation and/or private funds thru Keenum

You are full of shit if you think we do not have the money.

His buy out is less than what we paid Mullen per year 10 years a go. And not all due at once. They get to deduct what he gets from his next job and it's divided up and paid out for 4 years.

[BlackSailsDawg]

1. Arnett's buyout is not costly to Mississippi State.
2. He's not a national championship winning coach.
3. Season ticket sales will hit a historical low if he is retained.
4. Good luck recruiting any skill players to play in this shit offense.

All true!

[MafiaDawg]

The situations are very different. If someone has to explain it to you, then you probably won?t comprehend it either.

[Coach34]

You are full of shit if you think we do not have the money.

His buy out is less than what we paid Mullen per year 10 years a go. And not all due at once. They get to deduct what he gets from his next job and it's divided up and paid out for 4 years.

I didnt say we didnt have the money- reading comprehension isnt your strong suit. What makes you think they will spend it? They have to give the ok for the AD to make that call. We only get to deduct it if he gets another job for next year. He may decide to take a year off to play with the kids and live on their land while drawing that nice paycheck. Also, its not paid off over 4 years- its 3. 3 years left on his contract after this one.

All this "Selmon wants to make aa name for himself" crap only happens if he gets permission to do so.

[KB21]

The situations are very different. If someone has to explain it to you, then you probably won?t comprehend it either.

I'm suspecting that some are worried that a certain former high school coach who they are buddies with, who has somehow gotten unusual power over the program right now, will not survive a coaching change, and therefore they are pushing against said coaching change.

[gtowndawg]

We have the money.

[Coach34]

We have the money.

Nobody said we dont. Having money and spending it are two different things

[Wink&aPrayer]

I'm suspecting that some are worried that a certain former high school coach who they are buddies with, who has somehow gotten unusual power over the program right now, will not survive a coaching change, and therefore they are pushing against said coaching change.

Peaches reachin' and preachin'

[confucius say]

If we go 4-8 and lose by multiple touchdowns on thanksgiving at home in front of 35k fans, there will be no choice but to fire him.
If he gets to 6-6, he stays.

The real conversation will be if he goes 5-7. My guess is he is fired unless there is a bolt of energy between now and then. Our program is lifeless right now. No energy.

[KB21]

No energy will be added with this crap offense Barbay is running.

[Santiago]

I am reading this that Coach34 heard conversations to be confident on the post. He knows something.
Seems still to me it is a fluid situation though, and he needs to show improvement.

[DesotoDog1967]

Ole Miss wouldn't put up with another year if they weren't the one with a brash young national known coach like they have now. Wacky Leach counterbalanced Kiffin. Arnett is in permanent little brother status