Sunday Morning QB- Just Cant Give Them The D Edition

[Santiago]

I posted on this when somebody stated that Leach was taking defensive scholarships to load up on WRs. It was totally false! Leach had less WRs vs the WR /TE room the year before.

You want to know why the defense is bad, because our new HC started signing less DLs

Our HC saw a bigger urgency to go get 2 Portal TE's, instead of fix his defense. That says a lot.

[Really Clark?]

https://www.teamrankings.com/college...ate=2023-10-10

No it isn't. You only get there by picking and choosing what to count.

I'm not picking and choosing. You are still counting our 6 defensive and ST scores as the offense. It wasn't the offense scoring those points. 26.75 last year 26.6 this year. Period, end of story. You wanted to use stats from a site that didn't include FCS because you though it made a difference. It didn't.

[Coach34]

[url]No it isn't. You only get there by picking and choosing what to count.

says the guy picking choosing what he wants to count

[Really Clark?]

Our HC saw a bigger urgency to go get 2 Portal TE's, instead of fix his defense. That says a lot.

How many defensive players did we get from the portal vs TE's?

[Santiago]

How many defensive players did we get from the portal vs TE's?

Not enough, from what it looks like so far. I get that we have 3 injured on defense and the 2 TE's are really no help, unforeseen.

[Really Clark?]

Not enough, from what it looks like so far. I get that we have 3 injured on defense and the 2 TE's are really no help, unforeseen.

No you made the statement about urgency getting the 2 TE's, give the number of defensive players added.

[Santiago]

No you made the statement about urgency getting the 2 TE's, give the number of defensive players added.

yes I did.
What about it. It was a reply to Coach saying we are in a transition on offense.
That all goes back on the HC and staff decisions there.
The 2 TE scholarships could have helped us elsewhere this year. Not many would argue that.

[Really Clark?]

yes I did.
What about it. It was a reply to Coach saying we are in a transition on offense.
That all goes back on the HC and staff decisions there.
The 2 TE scholarships could have helped us elsewhere this year. Not many would argue that.

Then back up your facts to show the difference in the defensive players added vs TE's. And I got news for you, Leach was looking at transfer H-Backs/TE's to add the rooster. He was evolving, just very slowly.

[Santiago]

Then back up your facts to show the difference in the defensive players added vs TE's. And I got news for you, Leach was looking at transfer H-Backs/TE's to add the rooster. He was evolving, just very slowly.

I was already aware of Leach's evolving. Actually you know I have mentioned it on previous posts, and that we were headed toward more mobile QBs as well.

My point was our DC became HC, and did not evaluate his needs. I think he rushed in a transition instead of shore up what was needed to have a big year for himself. He became clouded in "his vision".

[Really Clark?]

I was already aware of Leach's evolving. Actually you know I have mentioned it on previous posts, and that we were headed toward more mobile QBs as well.

My point was our DC became HC, and did not evaluate his needs. I think he rushed in a transition instead of shore up what was needed to have a big year for himself. He became clouded in "his vision".

No, it's a false narrative. He knew the biggest issue was the backend and went and got a lot of new backend help. Albert missing the year hurts. You want debate evaluation, I can agree with that. Everything else is just a made up narrative.

[Santiago]

No, it's a false narrative. He knew the biggest issue was the backend and went and got a lot of new backend help. Albert missing the year hurts. You want debate evaluation, I can agree with that. Everything else is just a made up narrative.

Disagree.
Burning a true freshman OL this year to play TE , because we are changing the offense so quickly is not a false narrative.
Signing 2 more in the portal in this particular season was a bad move, when we have had other needs. Evaluation was bad on those, yes. How could we sell the position to any other TE out there in such a rush?
That does go back to the haste in blowing up things too fast.

[Really Clark?]

Disagree.
Burning a true freshman OL this year to play TE , because we are changing the offense so quickly is not a false narrative.
Signing 2 more in the portal in this particular season was a bad move, when we have had other needs. Evaluation was bad on those, yes. How could we sell the position to any other TE out there in such a rush?
That does go back to the haste in blowing up things too fast.

Disagree all you want. That's fine. Still doesn't change you are trying push a false narrative that he neglected adding to the defense for adding TE's.

[Santiago]

Disagree all you want. That's fine. Still doesn't change you are trying push a false narrative.

What am I "pushing"
I want to win, and do not have an agenda on how we get there, like some on the staff and boosters do.

We won 9 last year, with the players coming back that only know that system. My take is...win this year above any pride of the system. Get it done.
I do truly think a modified AR fits us best, and keep the mindset as coaches come and go. But it does look obvious that too much effort and energy was spent hiring and recruiting to the new system instead of focusing on what is needed to shore up the team and make a good run this year.
That is what pisses me off.

[BlackSailsDawg]

What am I "pushing"
I want to win, and do not have an agenda on how we get there, like some on the staff and boosters do.

We won 9 last year, with the players coming back that only know that system. My take is...win this year above any pride of the system. Get it done.
I do truly think a modified AR fits us best, and keep the mindset as coaches come and go. But it does look obvious that too much effort and energy was spent hiring and recruiting to the new system instead of focusing on what is needed to shore up the team and make a good run this year.
That is what pisses me off.

Yeah darn you pesky common sense people who think changing offense in year 4 of a sr team is the wrong thing to do!*****

[KB21]

What am I "pushing"
I want to win, and do not have an agenda on how we get there, like some on the staff and boosters do.

We won 9 last year, with the players coming back that only know that system. My take is...win this year above any pride of the system. Get it done.
I do truly think a modified AR fits us best, and keep the mindset as coaches come and go. But it does look obvious that too much effort and energy was spent hiring and recruiting to the new system instead of focusing on what is needed to shore up the team and make a good run this year.
That is what pisses me off.

That's what happens when your coach comes in with the mindset of "we have to run the ball" or "everything starts with the running game". If I'm interviewing a potential head coach, and they tell me that, I'm immediately dismissing them as a candidate for the job.

[Really Clark?]

What am I "pushing"
I want to win, and do not have an agenda on how we get there, like some on the staff and boosters do.

We won 9 last year, with the players coming back that only know that system. My take is...win this year above any pride of the system. Get it done.
I do truly think a modified AR fits us best, and keep the mindset as coaches come and go. But it does look obvious that too much effort and energy was spent hiring and recruiting to the new system instead of focusing on what is needed to shore up the team and make a good run this year.
That is what pisses me off.

Then don't make statements like "Our HC saw a bigger urgency to go get 2 Portal TE's, instead of fix his defense." Without backing it up. If Leach added TE's, which was coming by your admission as well, then you wouldn't be here saying that. That's pushing a narrative. And honestly at this point, I have doubts in Zach getting this righted. But I'm not going to make stuff up either.

[Saltydog]

And every week you bitched about last year's offense... what changed your mind ?

Rep. Given........

[sandjunky]

http://cfbstats.com/2023/leader/911/...09/sort01.html

30.2

You?re the one that set the goal posts on offensive points - that link includes the block punt scoop and score against SELA that bring total points to 181

So again it?s 29.0 Pts per game so far this year on offense - so again you are wrong

Through 6 games last year O scoring was 36.2 for the year 29.5

This years O - It?s only better to you because it?s the kind of offense you like nothing more - your bias shows too much and I wasn?t a big air raid fan and this offense sucks just about as bad as last years - the difference?

The air bone kept the shitty defense off the field masking the ineptness of Arnett?s defense that is being exposed this year

[HancockCountyDog]

I don't think anyone should argue that we have decided to install an offense that doesn't really fit the strengths of our offensive team. Will is not a read option QB. Our OL does not pass block well for 4+ seconds. We do not have competent TE's on the roster.

I think the offense is improving, but overall what we were told, "I will have the offense tailored to our talent" is simply not an accurate statement, otherwise we wouldn't be trotting out a TE that is simply not a strength on this team right now. When you have Will running read option plays, that is not tailoring your offense to the team's talent. That is taking your offense and forcing it down your team's throat.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter because the much larger issue is that our defense is simply not good. We can argue scheme, but defense is always about talent. Offense is about scheme and Defense is about talent. Who on our roster right now is an NFL draft pick? Who might get picked for the Senior Bowl? Watson and Jett are college LB's that I don't think make an NFL practice squad. Crumedy and Pickering are in the same boat. Solid players that have significant limitations. We have to keep playing the younger kids to get them some experience so that next year isn't worse. We are recruiting JUCO very heavily right now. We will have to spend in the portal to just be competent next year.

The talent deficiency on the roster beyond the senior class is a problem that a lot of people saw coming, but we all thought we would have a 9 win type season this year so that next year's potential 5-6 win season would be tolerable. We can't go 5-7/6-6 and then turn around and go 4-8/5-7. The gap will simply continue to widen.

[KB21]

Net success rate from this Saturday. And some think this was a good win for us.