We are 118th in the nation in time of possession

[Santiago]

But the problem there is still not TOP, it is too many 3 and outs. If you score quickly, TOP does not matter. And if you score slowly, TOP does not matter. And if you do not score, TOP does not matter.

TOP does not matter.

nm

[BuckyIsAB****]

Here's what I'm tired of Clark.

We had a coach that came in to a sorry ass, soft culture where the inmates were running the asylum. We had players cheating on exams, our stud LB punches our starting QB in the eye and breaks his eye socket, we have a primadonna RB who gains 300 against KSU then 13 against a bad TN team and he won't or can't block a LB to save his life while everything revolves around the yds he gains etc. The whole attitude of the team is sorry.

Not only that, the incoming coach was hired between the 1st and 2nd signing periods of recruiting. He proceeds to start instituting a lot of discipline and toughness. Thru the course of instituting the discipline and toughness, some bad attitude players get culled, and he ends up with a very young team, and eventually in the middle of the upcoming year an all-freshmen backfield.

Just that situation alone is a tough enough situation for any new coach to come into. Saban and Kirby both came into much better situations.

But to add to all that mess ...

During this time Covid hits, he doesn't get a spring practice so a lot of his personnel evaluation and moves have to take place during the upcoming season. He also doesn't get to do a spring install of his offense.

He then has to play an all-SEC schedule, and has games like OM where he only takes 47 scholly players up to their place to play the game due to Covid participation rules. His team is mostly true Frosh and Sophs.

During that whole time he gets literally crucified by many on this board with absolutely no patience or acknowledgement of all this adversity. NONE!

In year 2, we win 7, play LSU close and should win, lose a game to Memphis we played badly in but refs call on the muffed punt cost us that game. We also got screwed later in the year by the refs against Arky. We have a miraculous comeback against AU and beat more ranked teams in one season than we ever had.

Then last year we win 9 counting the bowl game. A pretty darn decent year by MSU standards. And YET ... he's still getting crucified by the same posters over and over and over ... ad nauseam.

He unexpectantly dies and we hire our pretty young DC so that we can "keep the culture", "have a smooth transition", "retain the recruiting class", yada, yada. He has no HC experience. He's only been coaching 3 years as a DC in the major leagues of SEC football. His Ds have been pretty solid, but not great.

The culture had been set. The program had been on the upswing. We were moving in the right direction. There were things that could be improved sure, and maybe ZA was gonna work to improve some of those things. That's not a bad thing. Take what works and improve or modify what isn't working too well. That's just kinda like ... good f***ing sense.

However .. the new coach with a bunch of new homeboys that have been hired who hated everything about Leach, decide to blow it all up, burn it all down, and start over.

And now ... they're on here saying we should be patient, we expect too much as MSU fans, they are busy comparing meaningless f***ing stats on how things are "improving", comparing their regime to LSU and Brian Kelly, etc.

All when they gave absolutely no quarter, encouragement, or support for a Hall of Fame f***ing CFB coach and all the adversity he and his team overcame. F*** that shit.

Find me one thing in Davis Wade Stadium, from the sky boxes down to the walk ways that has any resemblance of Mike Leach. Jake Wimberly even made this point.

There is a reason for that. There was an axe to grind and a few people were able to get in Arnetts ear to grind it. I have zero patience or pity

[BlackSailsDawg]

Find me one thing in Davis Wade Stadium, from the sky boxes down to the walk ways that has any resemblance of Mike Leach. Jake Wimberly even made this point.

There is a reason for that. There was an axe to grind and a few people were able to get in Arnetts ear to grind it. I have zero patience or pity

Yep! That's where I am at.

[Santiago]

Yep! That's where I am at.

Find me one thing in Davis Wade Stadium, from the sky boxes down to the walk ways that has any resemblance of Mike Leach. Jake Wimberly even made this point.

There is a reason for that. There was an axe to grind and a few people were able to get in Arnetts ear to grind it. I have zero patience or pity

I can see it on the 247 site reporters also, carrying the message from the administration or staff about it also.
I get things were not perfect but good grief he was not treated right when here. It is these reasons that have turned me from giving a really big NIL donation this year, if big is a 6 figure donation. And I am not just saying that for internet boasting. I legitimately have soured on MSU in how they treated an NCAA legendary coach, and how a portion of our fanbase treated him, as well as how fast they ditched any resemblance of him being at MSU.
We lied to the signing class saying just some adjustments but no big changes.
I love the university, but we have some really backward stuff happening and I am not donating to this good ole boy system.

[Cooterpoot]

Air Raiders = Flat Earthers