Soooooo to recap the season so far

[Santiago]

Did you read what you typed? UM just hung 50+ on LSU and Bama held them to 10. UM lead the SEC in scoring so far. Bama is good defensively

I know, and that is fair to say. Main point is it may be too early to be hanging our hat on scoring on Alabama. Was Bama really even up for us? It looked like they were going through the motions for a while.
LSU is not that good on D.
Ole Miss struggled in games prior to that at times against far less talent. Georgia Tech just sat down their DC.
I think they are good on O, but then they seem to stall against better defenses at times too

Sometimes I wonder if it is Lane calling plays or their Mensa coach. They seem to look different after the first 15 plays.

edit: Bama plays Aggies this week....so to me the game looked like a walk through motions game for them to get over with and start preparing for Aggies

[BlackSailsDawg]

This is not a serious post. Bama is 2nd in the SEC in D.

No they are not.

TAMU, Florida, and UGA are all ranked ahead of them.

[Really Clark?]

We are not improving. As of yesterday the same issues we had vs SELA, AZ, LSU, USC, and Bama. We had a WR running a wrong route vs Bama. We had OT's still not knowing who to block. Nothing has gotten better.

The footage vs USC showed the issues really well.

Didn't last year the board have a bunch of debates about the offense and the QB struggles and the WR's running wrong routes was a major point that was made? Can't remember if you did or not, just remember that was brought up a good bit to defend last years offense, but now it's an issue with this offense? Maybe it's been a problem left over from the old staff? Not picking on your post, just found the juxtaposition funny that WR's running the wrong routes to defend that offense, 3 years in, and now it's an indictment of this offense in its first season.

The offense had gotten better but it's not close to good yet. The OL was better last week, I know you won't see it but it was. Still too many missed assignments.

[Coach34]

No they are not.

TAMU, Florida, and UGA are all ranked ahead of them.

http://cfbstats.com/2023/leader/911/...09/sort01.html

Please learn how to read if you want to debate like an adult

[Really Clark?]

No they are not.

TAMU, Florida, and UGA are all ranked ahead of them.

Scoring defense they are 2nd

[Really Clark?]

I know, and that is fair to say. Main point is it may be too early to be hanging our hat on scoring on Alabama. Was Bama really even up for us? It looked like they were going through the motions for a while.
LSU is not that good on D.
Ole Miss struggled in games prior to that at times against far less talent. Georgia Tech just sat down their DC.
I think they are good on O, but then they seem to stall against better defenses at times too

Sometimes I wonder if it is Lane calling plays or their Mensa coach. They seem to look different after the first 15 plays.

edit: Bama plays Aggies this week....so to me the game looked like a walk through motions game for them to get over with and start preparing for Aggies

Oh it very well could be the case, we will see how the season goes. The TAM game is interesting to see how it goes. I wouldn't be surprised if TAM or Bama wins. Bama doesn't have the offense to go into a shoot out

[Santiago]

Didn't last year the board have a bunch of debates about the offense and the QB struggles and the WR's running wrong routes was a major point that was made? Can't remember if you did or not, just remember that was brought up a good bit to defend last years offense, but now it's an issue with this offense? Maybe it's been a problem left over from the old staff? Not picking on your post, just found the juxtaposition funny that WR's running the wrong routes to defend that offense, 3 years in, and now it's an indictment of this offense in its first season.

The offense had gotten better but it's not close to good yet. The OL was better last week, I know you won't see it but it was. Still too many missed assignments.

We were better against Bama, but I am not sure if Bama really cared in that game.
They had Milroe practicing his passing game to get ready for Aggies. It looked like they were just trying things out with us. It is really hard to hang our hat on that one game, when the previous 4 were awful.

[BlackSailsDawg]

http://cfbstats.com/2023/leader/911/...09/sort01.html

Please learn how to read if you want to debate like an adult

Please learn to express what your are saying if you want to debate like an adult. Your sentence read this Bama is 2nd in the SEC in D.

The facts is they are not ranked 2nd in DEFENSE. https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/MFB/2024/11/22/19

[BlackSailsDawg]

Scoring defense they are 2nd

And that's not what he said. Their scoring defense is ranked 17th in the nation. And that's very padded with MTSU and south FL. 2 Chump teams that scored a combined 10 points.

[MBDawg601]

And that's not what he said. Their scoring defense is ranked 17th in the nation. And that's very padded with MTSU and south FL. 2 Chump teams that scored a combined 10 points.

Lol, we are 2nd in the SEC in defense.


MOST Points allowed.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Lol, we are 2nd in the SEC in defense.


MOST Points allowed.

LOL!!!!!!

[Really Clark?]

And that's not what he said. Their scoring defense is ranked 17th in the nation. And that's very padded with MTSU and south FL. 2 Chump teams that scored a combined 10 points.

Man, it's usually scoring on the board when people say D and they say total D if they are reference yards. I usually say scoring but that's just how I do it. In todays game especially most on here just care about scoring D and O. It would have taken a sec to see which one he meant. And Georgia hasn't played anyone, doesn't change where they are ranked right now.

[Really Clark?]

Lol, we are 2nd in the SEC in defense.


MOST Points allowed.

Don't know how we aren't first!***

[Coach34]

Yards arent kept on the scoreboard so scoring is what matters

[BlackSailsDawg]

Yards arent kept on the scoreboard so scoring is what matters

And remove the cup cakes of south Fl and MTSU and that are allowing 20.333333 points.

[Really Clark?]

And remove the cup cakes of south Fl and MTSU and that are allowing 20.333333 points.

Dude, everybody has at least 2 cub cakes 5 games in. Look at Georgia, Kentucky who are ranked 1 and 3. Their schedule has been worse that Bama's. Come on bro

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

andddddddd there we go. Between this and the Airbone Cult- this is what is driving most of the angst

Pretty sure taking a 9-4 team that returned almost everyone and missing a bowl game is what's driving my angst. Kinda like Lemo taking a well oiled machine of a baseball program, inheriting top 15 classes, bringing in his own top 10 classes, and yet missing Hoover is what makes me not like Lemo.

Whatever narrative you've got to spin to support your side is what you'll spew. Facts be damned.

Like "airborne cult"? Dude they're black sails, Bucky, and KB21. That's it for the "cult". The vast majority of this place either A) hated the air raid (which is why you made up a nickname for it) or B) thought there were better overall offenses. Very few people wanted the pure air raid, there is no "cult" here. Now "rtgdfb", THAT is a cult

[Really Clark?]

Pretty sure taking a 9-4 team that returned almost everyone and missing a bowl game is what's driving my angst. Kinda like Lemo taking a well oiled machine of a baseball program, inheriting top 15 classes, bringing in his own top 10 classes, and yet missing Hoover is what makes me not like Lemo.

Whatever narrative you've got to spin to support your side is what you'll spew. Facts be damned.

Like "airborne cult"? Dude they're black sails, Bucky, and KB21. That's it for the "cult". The vast majority of this place either A) hated the air raid (which is why you made up a nickname for it) or B) thought there were better overall offenses. Very few people wanted the pure air raid, there is no "cult" here. Now "rtgdfb", THAT is a cult

You forgot Santiago as well. Lol just messing with you buddy!

I think Bucky is more Will aligned than AR and is more flexible on schemes. Not that he doesn't like AR, just I get the feeling he would be fine with certain other schemes. I could be wrong though.

[Goldendawg]

DL isn't terrible, just no depth and scheme issues. LB/DE is horrible. We all know the QB issues. Secondary suffers a lot from no pass rush. It's still not incredible but give them a pass rush and they improve.

I think the 3-3-5 is also a liability without lockdown CB's which we certainly don't have this year and we have been spoiled with recent past CB's now in NFL. Lack of pressure on the opposing QB also hurts secondary very badly. I have watched replays and we sometimes don't get home adding one or two LB's to the rush (LB lack of speed is also an issue down field). At games, I have sometimes counted 1000-one to even 1000-7 or so while opposing QB scans the field. We are giving up an 85% completion rate or so last three games. You could put 11 of those folding chairs Coach Leach threw down on the field for "D" and many QB's would have trouble completing 85% of their passes.

[confucius say]

After Saturday- we'll be averaging more PPG than we did last year. All this buffoonery and BS should at least quiet some until after the UPig performance

1. That would require us scoring 50 Saturday.

2. We won't average as many points per game this year as we did last year.

3. ZA doesn't get a complete pass on the defense. He coddles guys too much and they aren't responding. Take a lesson from Saban who was crawling tails on the sideline Saturday night. Talent aside, We're soft.

ETA: 4: I do agree the offense is improving and can work here. It's just going to take a talented QB and average OL to be on par with what the AR did without a talented QB and with a bad OL.