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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    LOL!

    And we weren't getting Mike Leach either, right?

    Crazy shit happens.
    Why would a coach that is in a situation that is better than ours leave that to come here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    LOL!

    And we weren't getting Mike Leach either, right?

    Crazy shit happens.
    I didnt think we would be stupid enough to hire Leach. But we did and here we are.
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    I?m okay with Malzahn. Hard no on Dan Mullen. Only reason why is he didn?t like recruiting and I don?t think he?d use the portal to his advantage. It would be a long shot because I know he has decided to spend more time with his family but what about brad Peterson??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    I am just replying on your comment because it reminded me about Tech.
    Every school is a little different, but we(the administration) should have looked at TX Tech after Leach left. They brought in Tubberville to "RTDF", and get back to Spike Dikes football (sound familiar??).
    They wandered around for years, before bringing Kingsbury back(Air Raid).
    Now look at the OC they have Kittney, running Air Raid.

    They are an outpost school and realized it after trying to go another direction.
    We are too, and need a unique offense from the SEC schools, in my opinion. That is the main reason I was posting so much lately.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Santiago again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    Why would a coach that is in a situation that is better than ours leave that to come here?
    They wouldnt.

    Also:

    Moorhead fired after 1st losing season
    Leach died while Coach
    Arnett fired after 1st losing season

    Not gonna be a very long line of people wanting that job
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I didnt think we would be stupid enough to hire Leach. But we did and here we are.
    YEP! With a WR room full of 4 stars, and the most wins vs top 25 teams in a 3 year start for a MSU coach and a 9 win season. OH THE FRIGGIN HORROR of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    Why would a coach that is in a situation that is better than ours leave that to come here?
    #1) I'm ****ing with 34.

    #2) That's the AD's job. I hope we hired well.

    #3) In this situation Beamer has ties to MSU. It's possible but not probable.

    #4) With that attitude we're ****ed. Let's just hire Chizik then and say **** it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    They wouldnt.

    Also:

    Moorhead fired after 1st losing season
    Leach died while Coach
    Arnett fired after 1st losing season

    Not gonna be a very long line of people wanting that job
    You are really going to bat for your boys.

    That's bullshit and you know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    They wouldnt.

    Also:

    Moorhead fired after 1st losing season
    Leach died while Coach
    Arnett fired after 1st losing season

    Not gonna be a very long line of people wanting that job
    The last 2 you listed will not push people away from the job. Most are going to understand that we did what we had to When Leach passed.

    In fact, because of Leach a modified AR coach will see they can have success here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    They wouldnt.

    Also:

    Moorhead fired after 1st losing season
    Leach died while Coach
    Arnett fired after 1st losing season

    Not gonna be a very long line of people wanting that job
    I think you might be surprised what $5 million could buy. Sec and Msu playing in the top conference along with another conference draws attention. It's all about who is firing now days.
    If you could double or triple your salary, I would think you would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    They wouldnt.

    Also:

    Moorhead fired after 1st losing season
    Leach died while Coach
    Arnett fired after 1st losing season

    Not gonna be a very long line of people wanting that job
    Wrong. We are an SEC job, one of 34 "power 2" jobs out there. We may not get the most elite candidates, but plenty of people likely to be better than Arnett would take the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    I think you might be surprised what $5 million could buy. Sec and Msu playing in the top conference along with another conference draws attention. It's all about who is firing now days.
    If you could double or triple your salary, I would think you would.
    He's fighting for his boys. He gets them texts now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I didnt think we would be stupid enough to hire Leach. But we did and here we are.
    LEACH WAS 8-4 IN YEAR 3, YA BOY IS ABOUT TO MISS A BOWL GAME

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    Reminder that the poster claiming we won't be able to hire anyone is the same poster who insisted that we not only could hire Kyle Whittingham away form Utah, but that Whittingham actively wanted our job. How can both of those be true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    #1) I'm ****ing with 34.

    #2) That's the AD's job. I hope we hired well.

    #3) In this situation Beamer has ties to MSU. It's possible but not probable.

    #4) With that attitude we're ****ed. Let's just hire Chizik then and say **** it.
    Malzhan is a better gamble then Chizik - and I hate both of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    LEACH WAS 8-4 IN YEAR 3, YA BOY IS ABOUT TO MISS A BOWL GAME
    With practically the same roster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    I am just replying on your comment because it reminded me about Tech.
    Every school is a little different, but we(the administration) should have looked at TX Tech after Leach left. They brought in Tubberville to "RTDF", and get back to Spike Dikes football (sound familiar??).
    They wandered around for years, before bringing Kingsbury back(Air Raid).
    Now look at the OC they have Kittney, running Air Raid.

    They are an outpost school and realized it after trying to go another direction.
    We are too, and need a unique offense from the SEC schools, in my opinion. That is the main reason I was posting so much lately.
    They also fired Kingsbury because he wasn't good. I'm just not beholden to a particular scheme. AR is not the only scheme that works and scores a lot of points and uses less talent to be competitive with better talented teams. The veer and shoot does the same. Hybrids of multiple schemes do the same.

    But overall when looking at head coaches schemes matter a lot less, a whole lot less, than a coach that fits at the right time and can run the entire program. Do they need to win? Absolutely! Moorehead actually won with a piss poor scheme (credit a great D and Shoop pushing the right buttons) and was an abject failure running the program. He had to go regardless. They have to win but they have to run a sound program as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Malzhan is a better gamble then Chizik - and I hate both of them.
    Malzhan >>>>>>>>>> Chizik. Chiz is a good DC but a horrible HC. Sound familiar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    So long as it's a modified AR like that of USC...etc. I want a system that using AR for the base with a TE for 11 personnel and a ramped up run game. This will keep our QB and WR room stacked and we would be preparing RBs for the NFL and that attracts them too.
    Only a Croom/JoMo type coaching staff and this present one are stubborn enough to try to implement their square pegs round hole offense. This bunch continues to run out a 4th string GA player who has never caught a pass in four or so years at GA & State, along with questionable blocking skills and a Freshman OL at TE. Only "TE" with a catch is really a WR playing out of position there also.

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