Soooooo to recap the season so far

[confucius say]

Our admin and coaching staff is making bad decisions. Arnett is listening to a HS coach on the side lines for crying out loud. The optics of it all is just pathetic. How have you not already assigned nicknames to that whole group , including Peterson by now? You were quick to jump on Coach Leach, a legendary coach, and give stupid nicknames. He earned for more respect than what was given on this board.
Just saying Coach34, I like you man, but we see through this one a mile away.
Arnett lied about the system he would run. So instead of having 4th and 5th year guys running a similar system to what they have known for 3 years that allowed them to equalize against better SEC talents, CZA listened to a HS coach and alumni and went back to 1997. I think they had leather helmets back then.

Because he likes this staff and this offense.

I actually do too honestly. But I can also be honest about what him seeing from ZA. I have no real issue with Barbay other than the decision to not give Wright a chance to win the job on the field, which that may be a ZA decision.

[TrapGame]

1. We lost to Bama as we always do
2. We lost to LSU as we normally do with a few wins sprinkled in here and there (3-12 in the last 15)
3. We lost on the road in the SEC to the East team as we usually do (2-7 the last 8 years)
4. We beat both OOC teams

But we have people freaking out and losing their minds. Literally nothing has changed with State football under Arnett. You guys acting like this is Croom like are insane

Wow.

If this wasn't your buddies on the staff you'd be ripping it apart.

[Coach34]

I really don't know what to make of this new "glass half full" Coach34. I feel like Ricky Bobby during his first live interview - "I don't know what to do with my hands..."

It's just reality.

Lemon better make it happen or he is gone. It's cut and dry for 2024.

Arnett gets two years to show he was the correct choice. I like the direction of the offense and really surprised at how bad the Secondary is on D. But that happens when you lose NFL caliber players and replace them with role players that just arent starter type guys. They have 2 weeks to get alot better on D or things will certainly get worse

[bulldawg28]

I knew it was coming. The real facts are some of us didnt appreciate what we had with Leach just because he didnt do things our way.

Be careful what you wish for

So people asked for Leach to die for change, right? Who asked for it?

[phatdog]

But we have people freaking out and losing their minds. Literally nothing has changed with State football under Arnett. You guys acting like this is Croom like are insane

I think social media is causing this insanity

[defiantdog]

It's just reality.

Lemon better make it happen or he is gone. It's cut and dry for 2024.

Arnett gets two years to show he was the correct choice. I like the direction of the offense and really surprised at how bad the Secondary is on D. But that happens when you lose NFL caliber players and replace them with role players that just arent starter type guys. They have 2 weeks to get alot better on D or things will certainly get worse

What's the latest on khamauri rogers? Dude still fighting an injury?

[BrunswickDawg]

It's just reality.

Lemon better make it happen or he is gone. It's cut and dry for 2024.

Arnett gets two years to show he was the correct choice. I like the direction of the offense and really surprised at how bad the Secondary is on D. But that happens when you lose NFL caliber players and replace them with role players that just arent starter type guys. They have 2 weeks to get alot better on D or things will certainly get worse

I don't disagree with the points.
As much grief as Lemo has gotten, the reality is that going into 2022 everyone knew we were thinner and that 2023 would be a rebuild year. Well, thin in '22 became a disaster when our top pitching was injured. That put even more pressure on a '23 team most expected to be a down season anyway. So, giving Lemo the chance to fix it is logical based on his first 3 seasons and his built up cred from a Natty. As you say - it is real cut and dry for Lemonis' fate.

Football is a different beast - but barring finding Arnett with a dead girl or a live boy, he will likely be back. The real issue to me is too many of our fans want a Cadillac, but they only want to pay for Chevy Citation. It makes keeping a roster intact hard, but also means you can't miss with guys you bring in via the portal. We can't afford to take players from the portal who need development. We missed on Goede, we missed on Spivey (though that wasn't our fault), we missed on Radar Jones, Jamari Brown, & Khamari Rogers, and Albert got hurt. We needed all of those bodies to contribute - and that lack of contribution at 3 positions of need (TE, S, CB) has hurt tremendously.

[Cooterpoot]

LSU is one game over .500, USC is under .500, and AL is as bad as they've been in 15 years. We're poorly coached. Very poorly coached at that. Our HS guy on the sidelines only happens here. We choose to sit on players and not spend on new players and didn't go get a QB. If Arnett thought the Air Raid was bad, he had to know Will couldn't handle anything else if Arnett is any kind of coach. We all knew it and we're a bunch of idiots. Just so many missteps with all this. Typical Mississippi State football crap.

[SpaceWranglerDawg]

LSU is one game over .500, USC is under .500, and AL is as bad as they've been in 15 years. We're poorly coached. Very poorly coached at that. Our HS guy on the sidelines only happens here. We choose to sit on players and not spend on new players and didn't go get a QB. If Arnett thought the Air Raid was bad, he had to know Will couldn't handle anything else if Arnett is any kind of coach. We all knew it and we're a bunch of idiots. Just so many missteps with all this. Typical Mississippi State football crap.

It's just the frustration. The frustration of continuing to try to do the same thing and continually getting embarrassed. I want to win, but I just don't want to spend all the money we spend to go and watch us get embarrassed.

Maybe I'm just extra pissed because I took the season win total over 6.5......and that's on me. My dad always told me, "No man ever got rich betting on the dawgs..." I was never the greatest listener.

[TorpedoIPA]

So people asked for Leach to die for change, right? Who asked for it?

Leach had a certain segment of fans at both Texas Tech and at Washington State that just didn't like him because he was different. The more he won with his offense the madder they got. Leach thought balance was distributing the ball, utilizing the whole field, not simply handing off to a running back as many times as you threw. Plus he felt that you could just throw the ball to a running back in space and have better results that just handing it to them.

Of course this pissed off the guys that think you have to do it the way everybody else does it.

I always felt that MSU would not fare well, doing everything like Alabama or LSU did, but not having equivalent talent. I think that is what we are seeing.

[Coach34]

Maybe I'm just extra pissed because I took the season win total over 6.5......and that's on me. My dad always told me, "No man ever got rich betting on the dawgs..." I was never the greatest listener.

andddddddd there we go. Between this and the Airbone Cult- this is what is driving most of the angst

[BlackSailsDawg]

andddddddd there we go. Between this and the Airbone Cult- this is what is driving most of the angst

No what's driving the angst is the product on the field with a veteran team!

[Matt3467]

Some of you folks saying this staff won't be gone even if we win 4-5 games aren't thinking about what Nov 23 could mean for this team. If OM rolls into Starkville and Crooms us I'd be surprised if heads didn't roll.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Some of you folks saying this staff won't be gone even if we win 4-5 games aren't thinking about what Nov 23 could mean for this team. If OM rolls into Starkville and Crooms us I'd be surprised if heads didn't roll.

Just repeating what 247 is saying. He will get another year.

[MBDawg601]

I've always dated fat ugly girls. I will always date fat ugly girls.

No self esteem or confidence. Just give me Big Bertha and I'll be happy.

This thread in a nutshell.

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

1. We lost to Bama as we always do
2. We lost to LSU as we normally do with a few wins sprinkled in here and there (3-12 in the last 15)
3. We lost on the road in the SEC to the East team as we usually do (2-7 the last 8 years)
4. We beat both OOC teams

But we have people freaking out and losing their minds. Literally nothing has changed with State football under Arnett. You guys acting like this is Croom like are insane

Gene34 to the rescue

[Gutter Cobreh]

It's just the frustration. The frustration of continuing to try to do the same thing and continually getting embarrassed. I want to win, but I just don't want to spend all the money we spend to go and watch us get embarrassed.

Maybe I'm just extra pissed because I took the season win total over 6.5......and that's on me. My dad always told me, "No man ever got rich betting on the dawgs..." I was never the greatest listener.

Lots of optimism coming into the season... remember the number of posts on here about how the media doesn't give us enough credit and the team wasn't getting enough credit because we had a new coach? We then step on the field and realize the only positions we're any good at is kicker and running backs.

We're extremely slow at QB, LB, and DB. These are three position groups where you can't compete in today's game when you're as slow as we are.

You can take any numbers and craft a narrative around it... what you can't do is tell anyone that has watched us play that we are a good football team. We aren't Croom/Moorhead level bad, but it can quickly slide that way unless we figure something out to put some wind in the sails.

[Matt3467]

Also I know others posted recently about our chances in the remaining games and anyone thinking 5 wins is the floor for this team is very optimistic. I don't see another conference win anywhere on our schedule.

[Matt3467]

Lots of optimism coming into the season... remember the number of posts on here about how the media doesn't give us enough credit and the team wasn't getting enough credit because we had a new coach? We then step on the field and realize the only positions we're any good at is kicker and running backs.

We're extremely slow at QB, LB, and DB. These are three position groups where you can't compete in today's game when you're as slow as we are.

You can take any numbers and craft a narrative around it... what you can't do is tell anyone that has watched us play that we are a good football team. We aren't Croom/Moorhead level bad, but it can quickly slide that way unless we figure something out to put some wind in the sails.

What amazes me is how it seems like all of the sportscasters only have great things to say about WR. It's like they've only looked at the stat books and never watched a game.

[Cooterpoot]

andddddddd there we go. Between this and the Airbone Cult- this is what is driving most of the angst

It's the extremely shitty football that's driving it. We returned 14 starters I think. Expectations should've been higher. Amateur Hour is making things worse than it should be. But Mississippi State's good ole boy network doesn't give a shit. Their buddies are employed here and they get access to more. Arnett is well past lost. So much so he's lost control of himself even. It's ugly. We're one of the 10 worst FBS teams in America vs FBS teams.