Our fans remind me of the scouts in MoneyBall

[EdwardDrayton]

Between 250-450. Other teams our size (USCe, Mizzou, UK) are spending around 10x what we are. Our problem is we spend too much on baseball. We need to spend 10 percent of our NIL on baseball, 25 percent on basketball, and the rest on football

Other teams our size? Do you mean student enrollment?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Other teams our size? Do you mean student enrollment?

Alumni and donor base size.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Well it looks like we need to consolidate some schools to compete then. Because I am not giving my kids money for their future to a program that can?t even figure out how a sound system works.

And I agree with you. I think there has to be buy in from the administration and athletic dept to get people excited and wanting to donate. Other schools do that?..we do not.

[EdwardDrayton]

Alumni and donor base size.

Fair to say alumni of significant means funding the difference at the other schools? Because at $250-$450 I'm thinking our significant means folks are not weighing in too heavily. Except for contributions to academics of course.

[Homedawg]

Other teams our size? Do you mean student enrollment?

Sorry wrong person

[Homedawg]

Between 250-450. Other teams our size (USCe, Mizzou, UK) are spending around 10x what we are. Our problem is we spend too much on baseball. We need to spend 10 percent of our NIL on baseball, 25 percent on basketball, and the rest on football

When someone cuts you a check and says I want it going to basketball, are we supposed to say no?? And there are people that solely give to hoops.

[StarkVegasSteve]

When someone cuts you a check and says I want it going to basketball, are we supposed to say no?? And there are people that solely give to hoops.

Again, as I said earlier, I am never going to tell someone how to spend the money they worked hard for. However, at our current donation rate, if a majority of our donations are not going to football then we will not be successful in either retaining current talent or getting new talent into the program.

[R2Dawg]

Trying to define the problem.

?We need a new coach?
?Change the QB?
?We run too much?
?Why arent we running??

If you want to know our problem, watch that scene.

NIL = more $ = better players = more wins = you being happy

Sign up for $20 / month.

If someone wants to give go ahead but suggesting our problem last night was NIL is ignorant. Bama has as much money as anyone and we are one player away from playing them down to the wire. TAMU more money than anyone and it ain't got them nothing. We spent some NIL what did it get us? Fact is nothing.

Will a player here or there be bought? Sure. Could it make a difference down the road for a few teams if they spend 100 million, maybe but there ain't enough money to buy all the good players. Yes the blue bloods have been and will always be that for various reasons. You saw the stripped reasons last night again with Bama. More money will always flow to those schools, that is fact.

[cheewgumm]

R2

Is your point that we do or do not need to raise more money to pay for better players?

[R2Dawg]

R2

Is your point that we do or do not need to raise more money to pay for better players?

Can some players be bought, sure. My point is it had nothing to do with last night and just cause you spend some money don't mean automatic results. Bama got 50X more money than we do and give us Fitz, Shrader, Keyton, etc. last night and we are down to wire with Bama. Has anyone had success buying a championship team? No. Teams been trying for years and got no more to show than we do.

Only so much money and there are a lot of good players out there.

Now years from now, will there be a handful of money teams with all the players, could be but I don't think it is going to be as bad as everyone predicts. We already had that for decades already - Bama, OSU, UGA, etc. etc. The good teams been good a long time.

[Coursesuper]

Can some players be bought, sure. My point is it had nothing to do with last night and just cause you spend some money don't mean automatic results. Bama got 50X more money than we do and give us Fitz, Shrader, Keyton, etc. last night and we are down to wire with Bama. Has anyone had success buying a championship team? No. Teams been trying for years and got no more to show than we do.

Only so much money and there are a lot of good players out there.

Now years from now, will there be a handful of money teams with all the players, could be but I don't think it is going to be as bad as everyone predicts. We already had that for decades already - Bama, OSU, UGA, etc. etc. The good teams been good a long time.

Let me know for sure, is ignorance bliss?

[EdwardDrayton]

Can some players be bought, sure. My point is it had nothing to do with last night and just cause you spend some money don't mean automatic results. Bama got 50X more money than we do and give us Fitz, Shrader, Keyton, etc. last night and we are down to wire with Bama. Has anyone had success buying a championship team? No. Teams been trying for years and got no more to show than we do.

Only so much money and there are a lot of good players out there.

Now years from now, will there be a handful of money teams with all the players, could be but I don't think it is going to be as bad as everyone predicts. We already had that for decades already - Bama, OSU, UGA, etc. etc. The good teams been good a long time.

Where are you seeing Bama is spending $15 million? We need to source these spending figures to get a documented picture of what's being spent. SVS is saying we're spending around $300,000; maybe some of you who know can back him as a bona fide source. And some other schools (KY, SC etc) are spending $3,000,000 according to him.

[cheewgumm]

Doest matter how much they are spending.

We need more money.

We will always need more.

[EdwardDrayton]

Doest matter how much they are spending.

We need more money.

We will always need more.

You're never going to get people to buy in unless you help them understand with documented information.

[EdwardDrayton]

Can some players be bought, sure. My point is it had nothing to do with last night and just cause you spend some money don't mean automatic results. Bama got 50X more money than we do and give us Fitz, Shrader, Keyton, etc. last night and we are down to wire with Bama. Has anyone had success buying a championship team? No. Teams been trying for years and got no more to show than we do.

Only so much money and there are a lot of good players out there.

Now years from now, will there be a handful of money teams with all the players, could be but I don't think it is going to be as bad as everyone predicts. We already had that for decades already - Bama, OSU, UGA, etc. etc. The good teams been good a long time.

Are we getting value for what we're spending is a significant question. In some individual cases it's at least questionable.

[Fader21]

If I was getting some return on my investment, I would be in on it. Yes, I get the return is wins on the field, but I want to have a fun family experience. Not just looking at a 65 year old female drop it like its hot multiple times on the Jumbotron, or a 40 year old in a oversized hat being a human bobblehead multiple times. (those were literally the loudest cheers of the night, last night)

[SpaceWranglerDawg]

The whole NIL system is stupid. We will forever be behind the eight ball due to our size, lack of willingness and the types of professionals that we graduate. I firmly believe the vast majority of our fan base just doesn't care.

[EdwardDrayton]

The whole NIL system is stupid. We will forever be behind the eight ball due to our size, lack of willingness and the types of professionals that we graduate. I firmly believe the vast majority of our fan base just doesn't care.

I'd bet our majority is no different from any other. And intuitively I'd bet folks of significant means are making a big difference elsewhere.

[Dawgology]

My hope with the NIL is that the money will eventually get so significant that you will have 40-50 universities that break off and make their own conference and basically create an NFL minor league. Then the smaller alumni base/financed schools like ours can get back to true amateur athletes composed of actual student athletes. I would gladly travel to state each weekend to watch that. These days I enjoy high school football more than what college football has become.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If I was getting some return on my investment, I would be in on it. Yes, I get the return is wins on the field, but I want to have a fun family experience. Not just looking at a 65 year old female drop it like its hot multiple times on the Jumbotron, or a 40 year old in a oversized hat being a human bobblehead multiple times. (those were literally the loudest cheers of the night, last night)

That is the biggest problem why we have a bunch of people that are still on the fence are off the fence completely. We do not play an exciting brand of football and our gameday atmosphere is a dud. The entrance is good. I like the video and I like the garage doors opening. It is a cool way to come onto the field, but after that it is crickets. Most of our fans rely too much on cowbells to do everything and do not get into the ballgame. Add on to that, our stadium is consistently taken over by any fan base that remotely travels well.