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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    No sir. Name the TE on this team that makes the 11 personnel viable. Name the 2 TEs that gives us a chance in 12.

    This is a vet team that we just wasted.
    That's irrelevant shit. See my reply in your other post. Plays were there, we ran the ball well, QB1 can shit the bed like he did

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    Quote Originally Posted by BankerDog View Post
    We scored 17?great, we lost the game. I care about W and L column. I don?t care if we ran the triple option but won, I?d take it.

    It doesn?t matter what leach did, or Mullen did, or Barbay did we still lost. And this Bama team isn?t the typical Bama team of the past ten years. 34 says this is the best offensive performance since ?98?that?s laughable when CROOM was the last one to beat Bama two years in a row. He must?ve forgot that ?14 and ?17 game too. But you know the common theme in all? We still lost but we still had hope based on other games. We have no hope with this team. We have a lame duck HC who does NOTHING on the sideline except listen to Peterson and Campbell and looks at scoreboard. That is unacceptable. What?s also unacceptable? Being aware of a talent gap on your DL and TE and not addressing it. Obviously the transfer evals on TE was bad (how do you not know of the Spivey issue beforehand). I?m all for finding bright spots-ask Vegas Steve my thoughts at times on Joe and Leach. They had ?grooves? in their offenses too but guess what?they won. This guy won?t win because he is clueless and isn?t leading his team.
    Banker- You gave the best summary of it.
    CZA also lied about saying he would not change much, and then let the offensive staff go, to make room for they buddy system.
    Then a few weeks ago telling the SEC network he changed the offense because of time of possession.
    This crap is akin to hiring Cohen as AD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We have scored 2 TD's on Bama for 1st time since when?

    **** off- this staff is better than what we have had
    Then why can?t they coach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    We graduate so many next year, bring in a proven coach to start the build!
    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    How did they get the ball to go 98 yards?
    That?s how you wanna play this? Dude just stop. Everyone knows my thoughts on Rogers (which by the way drove the ball to the two before he fumbled it). Fact is, had Bam not made a helluva play the almighty DC?s defense would?ve lost us the game because he let them go 98 yards with soft zone coverage per usual

    Where is your smartass reply to Auburn or Illinois? Who drove the ball for both those to win it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    Banker- You gave the best summary of it.
    CZA also lied about saying he would not change much, and then let the offensive staff go, to make room for they buddy system.
    Then a few weeks ago telling the SEC network he changed the offense because of time of possession.
    This crap is akin to hiring Cohen as AD.
    Cohen was such a disaster that auburn stole him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    LMAO ... 34 lobbying for a job on this staff. He sucking up.

    This year Rogers is holding this offense back. Last year it was all Leach's Air Raids fault. Hate to break it to him but Will don't play good against ranked opponents. This year and last year too. In '21he did.
    CZA looks tonight like he wishes he could just resign from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BankerDog View Post
    We scored 17?great, we lost the game. I care about W and L column. I don?t care if we ran the triple option but won, I?d take it.

    It doesn?t matter what leach did, or Mullen did, or Barbay did we still lost. And this Bama team isn?t the typical Bama team of the past ten years. 34 says this is the best offensive performance since ?98?that?s laughable when CROOM was the last one to beat Bama two years in a row. He must?ve forgot that ?14 and ?17 game too. But you know the common theme in all? We still lost but we still had hope based on other games. We have no hope with this team. We have a lame duck HC who does NOTHING on the sideline except listen to Peterson and Campbell and looks at scoreboard. That is unacceptable. What?s also unacceptable? Being aware of a talent gap on your DL and TE and not addressing it. Obviously the transfer evals on TE was bad (how do you not know of the Spivey issue beforehand). I?m all for finding bright spots-ask Vegas Steve my thoughts at times on Joe and Leach. They had ?grooves? in their offenses too but guess what?they won. This guy won?t win because he is clueless and isn?t leading his team.
    The 3 last years we were further away from beating them, at least we had a freaking pulse on offense this year. If all you care about is Wins, then you sure as shit should have been hollering louder about the last 3 years than tonight. Sure don't recall you blasting away the last 3 years. I may be misremembering

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    The 3 last years we were further away from beating them, at least we had a freaking pulse on offense this year. If all you care about is Wins, then you sure as shit should have been hollering louder about the last 3 years than tonight. Sure don't recall you blasting away the last 3 years. I may be misremembering
    7 to 9 wins is pretty nice don?t ya think? Don?t think we will get anywhere near that this year..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    The 3 last years we were further away from beating them, at least we had a freaking pulse on offense this year. If all you care about is Wins, then you sure as shit should have been hollering louder about the last 3 years than tonight. Sure don't recall you blasting away the last 3 years. I may be misremembering
    Saying "last 3 years" which included a Covid season the year CML became coach, with no spring practice. CML brought us the best group of WRs we have seen in a while, and had signed mobile QBs.
    Hard to really predict this year but against this Bama team, moving the ball has not been a problem for teams.
    He won games, but also had a good eye for talented assistant coaches. He had some on the offensive staff.
    CZA, instead of thinking "CML saw something in some of these guys", instead decided "no, I bet a former HS coach, and some others in MS know alot more about good coaches than Coach Mike Leach.... so I need to fire them all and listen to these guys instead..and hire their friends"
    Last edited by Santiago; 10-01-2023 at 12:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    lol- wow
    We have looked like shit for all 6 straight games under this shit coach, but you're gonna keep defending him on some shit moral victory that we "scored" more tonight than Leach did?!? This is the worst Bama team since Saban's first. With that shit logic, maybe we should hire Croom again... hell, he beat them. GTFO, you've lost all cred. Can't wait to hear what you cooked today before this shitshow... lolz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    The 3 last years we were further away from beating them, at least we had a freaking pulse on offense this year. If all you care about is Wins, then you sure as shit should have been hollering louder about the last 3 years than tonight. Sure don't recall you blasting away the last 3 years. I may be misremembering
    You are misremembering. Bank was saying the same thing the last 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    Saying "last 3 years" which included a Covid season the year CML became coach, with no spring practice. CML brought us the best group of WRs we have seen in a while, and had signed mobile QBs.
    Hard to really predict this year but against this Bama team, moving the ball has not been a problem for teams.
    He won games, but also had a good eye for talented assistant coaches. He had some on the offensive staff.
    CZA, instead of thinking "CML saw something in some of these guys", instead decided "no, I bet a former HS coach, and some others in MS know alot more about good coaches than Coach Mike Leach.... so I need to fire them all and listen to these guys instead..and hire their friends"
    It?s not even a Leach vs Arnett argument. That?s what people are missing. It?s stating this: we hired a guy in over his head. To make matters worse, we brought in a bunch of guys who were ?Mullen Country Club? (labeled here and speaking on Turner/Knox), Peterson who was previously fired, Bumphis because he played here but never did anything on a coaching level, and Will Friend from Philly who had been fired several places. Friend?s name has been tossed around so much throughout the years trying to be brought back it was laughable. Then we bring in Campbell and Joey Jones (who people were happy that we let go the first time). People tried telling people this was bound to happen.

    And Clark?Will Rogers is who he is and I learned that two years ago. He plays not to lose. That?s who he is. So that?s on you if you ever expected him to pick up and try to push down the field. A coach wasn?t changing that. That?s who he is. He is afraid against bigger named teams. Always has been, always will be. So you know why I didn?t run my mouth? Because a good coach coaches to his players and hides stuff-Leach did. They leave him out there now to lose confidence in himself, etc. Except this year?Arnett doesn?t have Forbes, Wheat, and Cam Young to hide his lack of talent as a coach. Because, again, as a coach raises his players-players do the same for coaches. And like I just told 7?his defense almost costed us games last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Cohen was such a disaster that auburn stole him?
    Cohen was a good AD like Chizik was a good head coach. Some fall into greatness... some are great. How many teams are "stealing" Chizik? I was a huge Cohen fan, but reality shows he was a disaster.

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    This staff is Rockey Felker 2.0.

    Offense looks like his out of the shotgun or pistol.

    Defense looks awful.

    I'll give them two years at most and that might be optimistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    The 3 last years we were further away from beating them, at least we had a freaking pulse on offense this year. If all you care about is Wins, then you sure as shit should have been hollering louder about the last 3 years than tonight. Sure don't recall you blasting away the last 3 years. I may be misremembering
    This isn't the bama of last year

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    Our Special Teams have been good so far

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    C34 seems to be defending State admin a lot recently. Lemo and now Arnett.

    Anyway, his entire argument centers around comparing 1 game this year to 1 game last year (Bama). The fact we played worse vs LSU than last year is ignored by C34. The fact we played worse vs Arizona than last year is also ignored by him. The fact we will have a worse record than last year with a veteran team is also ignored.

    We'll see what BS he spews to defend Arnett when we're 4-8 and get blown the F out by OM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    This isn't the bama of last year
    Defensively they avg giving up 18.2 per game last season, this year so far 14.2. The Bama issue is offense not defense.

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    We're staring down the barrel of a 4 win season, IF we can beat USM and that's not a given.
    "The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Activated Alpha View Post
    Yep. It is clear Arnett is worse at being a head coach than morehead and that?s saying something. Completely rebuild with a new staff since we will be depleted talent wise as is
    And the depleted talent is Leach?s fault. We?ve not gotten D talent good since Mullen

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