Selmon

[BlackSailsDawg]

We don?t have Auburn pockets..

The depth of the pockets are relative to the teams, not to those pockets throwing their weight around and making decisions.

[Coach34]

Show me the link that he has a huge buyout.

Show me something that says he doesnt. No coach is going to sign some contract with a tiny buyout. It may not be the full 9MM- but it will be substantial

[ArrowDawg]

I'm not saying there is zero chance we fire him but its damn near close to zero. He has a 4 year contract at 3MM per. We arent going to pay him 9MM to go away unless its just a circus.

It's so comforting to know we're willing to allow a university president to destroy our football program with his hire, assuming Arnett is the disaster he appears to be so far.

[TrapGame]

Show me something that says he doesnt. No coach is going to sign some contract with a tiny buyout. It may not be the full 9MM- but it will be substantial

I could have sworn we covered this back in January. I thought he had a two year contract with only a million dollar buyout to protect both sides. I could have sworn this was what we were told.

[ArrowDawg]

Bobby Bowden went 5-6 at Fla St
Bear Bryant went 1-9 at Texas A&M
Howard Schnellenberger had 3 straight losing seasons to begin at Louisville
People were saying Kirby Smart going 8-5 at Georgia in Y1 was underachieving

Remind me again- who was picked last in the West this season by damn near everyone?

Remind me again - which people almost always pick us last and get it wrong? Oh yeah, the same people. A blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while. Doesn't mean they know a damn thing. If we finish last, it isn't because they knew anything. If we finish last, it's because our coaching staff SUCKS.

[FISHDAWG]

Are you basing this of of anything? Or just guessing?

The 3 game sample we have been given does not lead me to believe he has a clue what he is doing and I don't think he has ever been in a position to roll heads. I'm glad you are optimistic.

We had a 3 YEAR sample with Croom and still ended up giving him an extension

[Leroy Jenkins]

Selmon needs to take notes this weekend when he goes to SC, everything from the DJ and the music to the stadium lights, lasers etc.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

It doesnt happen every year. It happens about every other year

We were picked last- so anything better than last would be overachieving.

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...or-Goede/page2

Here's what we know:

1. Rogers is football smart. Great thing to have at QB
2. Rogers is extremely accurate up to 20 yards.
3. Defenses playing us will no longer expect pass every play
4. Safeties now have to be involved in the run game and cant just sit back to force underneath throws
5. Wright gives us an extra package defenses will have to prep for

We will improve offensively

You want to have your cake and eat it too. Can't be saying "we'll be better offensively" and as soon as we suck come back with "well what did you expect? We were picked last!"

We went 9-4 last year. We return almost evryone. The "offense will improve". No, that doesn't add up to a 7th in the west finish. Just like with Lemonis, you're covering up for awful State coaching

[viverlibre]

Selmon needs to take notes this weekend when he goes to SC, everything from the DJ and the music to the stadium lights, lasers etc.

Are you trying to kill our Blue Hairs? They complain if someone stands up.

[Coach34]

I could have sworn we covered this back in January. I thought he had a two year contract with only a million dollar buyout to protect both sides. I could have sworn this was what we were told.

https://hailstate.com/news/2022/12/1...all-coach.aspx

4 years at 3MM per

[TrapGame]

https://hailstate.com/news/2022/12/1...all-coach.aspx

4 years at 3MM per

Why do I feel like we are in a Will Muschamp/Butch Jones situation?

[Dawgface]

We're screwed.

[DownwardDawg]

Remind me again - which people almost always pick us last and get it wrong? Oh yeah, the same people. A blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while. Doesn't mean they know a damn thing. If we finish last, it isn't because they knew anything. If we finish last, it's because our coaching staff SUCKS.

Spot on Arrow.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

https://hailstate.com/news/2022/12/1...all-coach.aspx

4 years at 3MM per

Yes but that doesn't mean it's all guaranteed. His buyout may only be $4M or something

It doesn't matter though, because Selmon and Keenum have no stones

[ScoobaDawg]

I'm not saying there is zero chance we fire him but its damn near close to zero. He has a 4 year contract at 3MM per. We arent going to pay him 9MM to go away unless its just a circus.

Finally someone who has a clear mind and understands reality not emotion.

Zach gets 2 years minimum.
It might suck. We might not make a bowl (which would be fu*king epicly bad) but it's the truth. We aren't firing him after one year unless fights are happening on the team

[dawgday166]

Bobby Bowden went 5-6 at Fla St
Bear Bryant went 1-9 at Texas A&M
Howard Schnellenberger had 3 straight losing seasons to begin at Louisville
People were saying Kirby Smart going 8-5 at Georgia in Y1 was underachieving

Remind me again- who was picked last in the West this season by damn near everyone?

LMAO ... in year 1 with Leach and a complete overhall with nothing but true freshmen in the backfield, Covid, SEC schedule, etc. you were all over Leach's pitiful Air Raid when it won only 4 games and ready to fire him.

And now ... you have all the patience in the world.

And another FWIW ... only Kirby inherited anything similar to what we have on our roster. Comparing Bear's 1st TAM team and Schnellenberger's 1st Miami team to this team ... LMAO SMH.

ETA: Bear's 1st year at TAM bout the same situation as Leach's 1st year at MSU. He ran off an all-conference center cause he got sick of watching film of him wallowing around on the field and not blocking anybody.

Kirby did inherit some talent tho and yea, people were laughing at him.

I'm willing to give Arnett time and I do think he's handicapped at the QB position however ... whatever happened to the "I guarantee this offense will be better than the Airborne"?

[Coach34]

We need to be better for sure. Not excusing anything. I'm just talking about the expectations portion- we were not expected to be very good by damn near everyone.

[Pancho]

Finally someone who has a clear mind and understands reality not emotion.

Zach gets 2 years minimum.
It might suck. We might not make a bowl (which would be fu*king epicly bad) but it's the truth. We aren't firing him after one year unless fights are happening on the team

Is 0fer in the SEC circus worthy? I seriously doubt we defeat any conference team with Will standing and then falling down by himself .

[Todd4State]

https://hailstate.com/news/2022/12/1...all-coach.aspx

4 years at 3MM per

Even if the buyout is the full value of the contract- which I doubt it is- isn't that why we have the Leo Seal money? In case we have a really bad coaching situation?

This definitely has the potential to qualify as that.

It's very possible that a contract can be terminated for poor performance.

A buyout is similar to a severance package in an instance like this and it's always negotiable as well. Depends on the language in the contract of course.

[MBDawg601]

As the season wears own and we continue to get hammered by everyone in the SEC.

I would imagine some of this "patience" people have will diminish. I'm almost impressed they still have some after the 3 games we have played. Maybe I am super critical, but another year of being ranked in the 100 range on both offense and defense could be a 10 year rebuild for a team like us with no real success in recent history.