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    The good thing is, Selmon has been around the Air Raid his entire career as a member of athletic departments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    Yes he should. I love the 3-3-5, but this is on him. He's the HC and he has no clue how to be the head coach!
    Read all the fall camp how good and deep our DL was that we might play some 4 down linemen. We did have two sacks from DL against LSU but we have barely touched the QB in three hoime games. We often send two LB's and still get no pressure and then get eat up on short passes in the flats in the very area the LB's vacated. We need to try a more traditional 4 down linemen with two tackles and two DE's (JMO), as it couldn't be much worse. We knew our LB's aren't very fast, maybe they need to stay more in position instead of blitzs that don't get there. Cushions given by DB's and safetys isolated alone against opponents' best receiver boggles the mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Read all the fall camp how good and deep our DL was that we might play some 4 down linemen. We did have two sacks from DL against LSU but we have barely touched the QB in three hoime games. We often send two LB's and still get no pressure and then get eat up on short passes in the flats in the very area the LB's vacated. We need to try a more traditional 4 down linemen with two tackles and two DE's (JMO), as it couldn't be much worse. We knew our LB's aren't very fast, maybe they need to stay more in position instead of blitzs that don't get there. Cushions given by DB's and safetys isolated alone against opponents' best receiver boggles the mind.
    I wish we would go 4-2-5 and 4 of those DBs be true CBs to help in coverage. I think our front six could do a good job without having to bring in a safety for run support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Read all the fall camp how good and deep our DL was that we might play some 4 down linemen.
    We debated going 4 down because we didn't have anyone to replace Wheat at Sam, not because the DL was good.
    Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    We debated going 4 down because we didn't have anyone to replace Wheat at Sam, not because the DL was good.
    I'm an old Dog, looks like I fell for how good, fast and deep we were at DL and LB. Was insulted when a team with 19 SR/grad starters were coming back on a 9 win team from last year was picked last by media and coaches. Knew we had to rebuild secondary, but thought we had some good underclassmen and transfers. Add in a rookie HC/staff at several positions, new O and this is tough to watch. The Air Raid with quick short passes also hid major weaknesses of the QB and OL. Zac was better at DC than HC to date. Brock and Barbay look totally lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    I'm an old Dog, looks like I fell for how good, fast and deep we were at DL and LB. Was insulted when a team with 19 SR/grad starters were coming back on a 9 win team from last year was picked last by media and coaches. Knew we had to rebuild secondary, but thought we had some good underclassmen and transfers. Add in a rookie HC/staff at several positions, new O and this is tough to watch. The Air Raid with quick short passes also hid major weaknesses of the QB and OL. Zac was better at DC than HC to date. Brock and Barbay look totally lost.
    It's been a while since we had some speed at LB. Wheat wasn't as slow as the others but watching Jett try to run someone down or better yet spy a mobile QB makes me cringe everytime. Seems like forever since we had Richie Brown and Matt Wells back there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    I'm an old Dog, looks like I fell for how good, fast and deep we were at DL and LB. Was insulted when a team with 19 SR/grad starters were coming back on a 9 win team from last year was picked last by media and coaches.
    It's not just our team they look at when picking the order of finish, it's about what EVERY team did in the off season to get better. The barn hired a great coach (bad human though), UM brought in some good transfers, Ark lost a good OC, we lost a very good coach and replaced him with someone who has zero business leading a big time program in the toughest conference in the land, plus we lost one of our best WRs, a 1st round CB and our second best RB.

    That we were picked last, should surprise no one. We didn't get much better from the portal (unless I'm missing some one). The portal was a net loss for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viverlibre View Post
    It's not just our team they look at when picking the order of finish, it's about what EVERY team did in the off season to get better. The barn hired a great coach (bad human though), UM brought in some good transfers, Ark lost a good OC, we lost a very good coach and replaced him with someone who has zero business leading a big time program in the toughest conference in the land, plus we lost one of our best WRs, a 1st round CB and our second best RB.

    That we were picked last, should surprise no one. We didn't get much better from the portal (unless I'm missing some one). The portal was a net loss for us.
    Good points, but we usually out perform these predictions historically. However, this year looks like a total mess on so many levels.

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    Selmon ain't going to do anything one way or the other. 99% of athletic directors are bureaucrats who shake hands, kiss babies, and kiss ass to donors. That's the way it is. There are very few who get up every morning fired up to get in the office and compete like a son-of-a-bitch at their profession. It's a job full of guys who coast and look good representing. Their salary and title tells them they have "made it in life", and they perform like they've already made it. It is what it is. The AD who gets up 365 days per year determined to whip the biggest bully on the block and become king of the hill is almost impossible to find. And generally a suit in a college president's office would be too intimidated to hire one anyway.

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    I certainly hope he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    I certainly hope he does.
    If our boosters are involved, I'm not sure we will like the outcome. Think about it. We were legitimately an hour or so away from hiring Joe Judge back in 2020 to replace Joe Moorhead. That was John Cohen getting us a Mississippi State guy that our boosters would support after Moorhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    If our boosters are involved, I'm not sure we will like the outcome. Think about it. We were legitimately an hour or so away from hiring Joe Judge back in 2020 to replace Joe Moorhead. That was John Cohen getting us a Mississippi State guy that our boosters would support after Moorhead.
    Then we will be the next Auburn dumpster fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    Then we will be the next Auburn dumpster fire.
    No doubt. My prediction is that we will have some boosters that reach out to Dan Mullen, and he will not show any interest in returning to the sidelines. After that, they will probably just decide to keep Zach Arnett.

    EDIT: It took a national embarrassment before they fired Joe Moorhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Bobby Bowden went 5-6 at Fla St
    Bear Bryant went 1-9 at Texas A&M
    Howard Schnellenberger had 3 straight losing seasons to begin at Louisville
    People were saying Kirby Smart going 8-5 at Georgia in Y1 was underachieving

    Remind me again- who was picked last in the West this season by damn near everyone?
    Testify!

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    I will say this, if he goes 4-8 this year, keeps his job, and we run it back with this same staff then next year will be an unmitigated disaster. Tech and 10 would not be out of the realm of possibility. We need MASSIVE help out of the portal at about 19 of 22 positions next year and our NIL is not set up to keep our players AND bring in new ones. No matter what happens the rest of the way this year, we will need a minor miracle or multiple guys to take MASSIVE steps forward to make a bowl next year.

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    Seriously, what changes or improvements has Selmon brought to the athletic department in his short time at the helm? Low key, behind the scenes or other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I will say this, if he goes 4-8 this year, keeps his job, and we run it back with this same staff then next year will be an unmitigated disaster. Tech and 10 would not be out of the realm of possibility. We need MASSIVE help out of the portal at about 19 of 22 positions next year and our NIL is not set up to keep our players AND bring in new ones. No matter what happens the rest of the way this year, we will need a minor miracle or multiple guys to take MASSIVE steps forward to make a bowl next year.
    We are almost assuredly not going to pay a huge buyout of millions to him after 1 season. Outside of him banging a midget in the meeting room on X Live- he is going to be the HC in 2024. After that? Who knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    Then we will be the next Auburn dumpster fire.
    We don?t have Auburn pockets..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Seriously, what changes or improvements has Selmon brought to the athletic department in his short time at the helm? Low key, behind the scenes or other?
    NIL funding has improved tremendously. Now we just have to start closing on guys instead of boosters walking in there with the old school Mississippi State mentality of ?I know your daddy and momma son..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We are almost assuredly not going to pay a huge buyout of millions to him after 1 season. Outside of him banging a midget in the meeting room on X Live- he is going to be the HC in 2024. After that? Who knows
    Show me the link that he has a huge buyout. I'm trying to find something online but I swore I remember Faulk or someone reporting that the buyout was advantageous to MSU

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