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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    That was not a scramble that was a designed roll out against the 2s and 3s
    Which Will would not have been able to roll out on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    And Will would have been sacked vs those same 2s and 3s.

    Fact is we don't know if Wright can ball. He hasn't had the chance. But we DO know Will can't. And you can't disparage Wrights passing TD without also disparaging Will even more, as Will would have been sacked.
    I didn't disparage his Td. And no, you don;t know that Rogers would have been sacked. He wasn't sacked by the 1s on many roll outs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyDog View Post
    Are you on retainer with the Rogers family for PR? I’ve never seen someone go out of their way to continually defend a short, concrete footed trash QB like you do.
    I'm not defending Rogers and was critical of him today. The fact is we made a stupid hire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    I didn't disparage his Td. And no, you don;t know that Rogers would have been sacked. He wasn't sacked by the 1s on many roll outs.
    On that particular rollout there was a defender off the edge. Wright only got away with his speed. Yes, Will would have been sacked that play. This isn't me making a general point by saying he'd be sacked, it's just a fact of that situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Barbay had mobile QBs. Mike Wright is a mobile QB. Will Rogers cannot run this offense because he is a liability. He is a statue in the pocket. Until I call for Barbay?s head, which I?m close, I want to see Wright run this offense for a full quarter at the very least.
    I?m curious. Who was Barbay?s run only QB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    I?m curious. Who was Barbay?s run only QB?
    I guess you got all your meltdowns over before the season. Everybody else's time to catch up now ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    I?m curious. Who was Barbay?s run only QB?
    Seriously?! You know you hate Barbay but just stop. I'm not happy with him either but let's look at his offense as a whole. We are asking a Air Raid QB who was never a mobile QB to run an offensive system that REQUIRES a mobile QB to be efficient and keep defenses honest.

    Right now this offense with Will is peanut butter and mustard. It doesn't go together. I'm short on Barbay too but we need to see a better QB run this offense before totally write it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Seriously?! You know you hate Barbay but just stop. I'm not happy with him either but let's look at his offense as a whole. We are asking a Air Raid QB who was never a mobile QB to run an offensive system that REQUIRES a mobile QB to be efficient and keep defenses honest.

    Right now this offense with Will is peanut butter and mustard. It doesn't go together. I'm short on Barbay too but we need to see a better QB run this offense before totally write it off.
    I agree, but I feel no symphony for barbay or arnett if they stick with a square peg

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I agree, but I feel no symphony for barbay or arnett if they stick with a square peg
    I 100% agree. This is a part of coaching too. The coaches need to do their jobs.

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    I will always love Mike Leach and what he did for the sport. National Treasure.

    I have even more respect for him, putting up the offensive numbers he did with Will Rogers. It is obvious now, Will was a product of the system. Imagine if we would have had an actual QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    I 100% agree. This is a part of coaching too. The coaches need to do their jobs.
    Symphony, haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Will Rogers must transfer immediately to the Millsaps Majors for us to win any SEC games. But, we don't want to win any SEC games. Death is our bride.
    I'll agree Will didn't play too well, but it's not all on him-not by a longshot. OL played poorly, DL has no push, DB's don't cover well. Tackling left a lot to be desired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Seriously?! You know you hate Barbay but just stop. I'm not happy with him either but let's look at his offense as a whole. We are asking a Air Raid QB who was never a mobile QB to run an offensive system that REQUIRES a mobile QB to be efficient and keep defenses honest.

    Right now this offense with Will is peanut butter and mustard. It doesn't go together. I'm short on Barbay too but we need to see a better QB run this offense before totally write it off.
    Chase Brice, Daniel Richardson, and Jacob Sirmons. Those are the QBs that have run Barbay?s version of Jim McElwain?s offense the past two years. Those three combined for 36 yards rushing in this system.

    Barbay?s scheme is not based on the zone read. It?s not a QB run scheme. It is based off the wide zone run scheme with a secondary drop back passing scheme. It?s the drop back passing scheme that Mike Wright will struggle with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Chase Brice, Daniel Richardson, and Jacob Sirmons. Those are the QBs that have run Barbay?s version of Jim McElwain?s offense the past two years. Those three combined for 36 yards rushing in this system.

    Barbay?s scheme is not based on the zone read. It?s not a QB run scheme. It is based off the wide zone run scheme with a secondary drop back passing scheme. It?s the drop back passing scheme that Mike Wright will struggle with.
    Right now Will's struggling with the whole damn thing. And did any of those other QBs who weren't mobile just sit back in the pocket and fall into the fetal position BEFORE they were sacked?

    Mike Wright at least offers another dimension to this offense that Will could never give.

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    Sounds to me like KB may really know what he's talking about. Not gonna research to be sure tho. If he's right then "GREAT ... Fantastic". I'm looking forward to the Barbay era ****

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    I think it?s the death penalty for Will to be expected to run this offense after three years of air raid in college and also running the air raid in high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    It?s the drop back passing scheme that Mike Wright will struggle with.
    11/28 for 103 yards and 5 sacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    11/28 for 103 yards and 5 sacks.
    Lol, no shit

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    Barbay can?t design the offense to fit Will?s need to be a rhythm passer. What makes you think he can call an offense that focuses on Wright?s ability to run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Barbay can?t design the offense to fit Will?s need to be a rhythm passer. What makes you think he can call an offense that focuses on Wright?s ability to run?
    Thus far, he's called 7 run plays fro Wright and 1 pass. Seems like he gets the memo on what Wright is

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