NCAA Baseball Transfer Portal

[KOdawg1]

Braden is being rumored to A&M. Should've fired the fat 17er back in May.

This portal class is a complete bust filled with mediocrity. Friday night starter? Nope. Top 15 pick next year with major connections to our roster? Nope. Just a decent pitcher, a ok-ish third baseman from a crappy baseball conference, a project from the Big10, a backup catcher, and a D2 pitcher.

What a joke.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And MAYBE we get Montgomery. I have used MAYBE at least a dozen times in this conversation.

It ain?t over til it?s over.

The fat lady hasn?t sung yet.

Baseball is 50% mental and 90% physical or however Yogi said it.

If Steve Sunshine Pumper Robertson is posting what he posted then it is curtains. He gives this staff every excuse and break there is and even he cannot turn this one

[AlSwearengen]

Do we have confirmation that Montgomery is going to A&M? I got a text that gene’s is in full melt down over it.

[Cowbell]

If Steve Sunshine Pumper Robertson is posting what he posted then it is curtains. He gives this staff every excuse and break there is and even he cannot turn this one

Steve don't know jack

[BigDawg81]

Steve don't know jack

If Steve is saying Texas A&M, it?s Texas A&M. He is the biggest sunshine pumper.

[Goldendawg]

Steve don't know jack

I did enjoy their (free) article yesterday congratulating Kamron Beavers on making the Clarion Liar Dandy Dozen and pointing out he was a strong OM commit.******

[Cooterpoot]

He gone. He went to A&M on a visit immediately after season. There's a connection that set it up. Lemonis is who we thought he was. A damn bum!

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Actually he has. His 1st recruiting class (2022) after the Natty was 5th in the county. His 2023 class is 12th

Our primary leaders for 2022 and 2023 were from previous classes

I will say our pitching acquisitions out of the portal have been lacking. That's where he and his staff have failed so far

"Where Lemo and his staff have failed SO FAR"?? I'd say missing Hoover 2x is a failure. Oh that's right, Lemo and Goat and Cheese aren't part of the staff. All blame for back to back season failures falls on the pitching coach

And no, getting good recruiting classes is not "capitalizing" on the NC. Winning is "capitalizing". Getting good recruits is part of winning but ultimate you have to actually win.

Lemo has been here 5 years, going into year 6. That means this past season had 3 Lemo classes. As you accurahave pointed out, most baseball players are gone in 3-4 years due to the draft. So that means 23 WAS Lemos team. Missing Hoover with Lemos own recruits is not a theory of what will happen, its factual history of what has happened.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

He gone. He went to A&M on a visit immediately after season. There's a connection that set it up. Lemonis is who we thought he was. A damn bum!

If only we had evidence before this Portal class Lemo wasn't the guy for the job! Maybe something historically bad, like missing Hoover in back to back years. Dont worry, I'm sure year 6 is the key. You're just short sited and don't know what's best for State baseball

[The Federalist Engineer]

He gone. He went to A&M on a visit immediately after season. There's a connection that set it up. Lemonis is who we thought he was. A damn bum!

Wasn't Lemons on the phone everyday with Montgomery and his Mom?

Everyday?

If this true, LSU-Arkansas-Texas A&M-Auburn are all ahead right now. MSU-Alabama-Ole Miss are fighting for that last ticket to Hoover. Lemons might as well start selling his house.

[SPMT]

Actually he has. His 1st recruiting class (2022) after the Natty was 5th in the county. His 2023 class is 9th

Our primary leaders for 2022 and 2023 were from previous classes

I will say our pitching acquisitions out of the portal have been lacking. That's where he and his staff have failed so far

Come on dude!

I will walk back, eat crow, whatever if we make a regional. But recruiting rankings are meaningless if they don?t translate to above the bar performance. We are not good and I do believe part of this is on the university/fans, etc. The very first NC ever, I imagine for many, they kind of breathed a sigh of relief. I get that.

However, why not truly capitalize on it. Go all out and close guys. I just don?t see evidence that our staff are hard working compared to other sports or say UT.

I hope and pray he gets back to being the guy, but I don?t have that confidence currently.

[SPMT]

If only we had evidence before this Portal class Lemo wasn't the guy for the job! Maybe something historically bad, like missing Hoover in back to back years. Dont worry, I'm sure year 6 is the key. You're just short sited and don't know what's best for State baseball

I’m with you. Even more concerned with the culture issue than even the lack of talent compared to top peers. Cohen had some untalented teams perhaps, but being entitled to was not a concern.

When former players say the team: 1. Is entitled and has been the last two years at least and 2. Aren’t talented enough compared to peers, I listen.

[Cowbell]

Look. We should never. And I mean never. Lose a baseball player to the cult unless it is purely being out-bid. I live not too far from CS and would much rather live in Starkville. Heck even the experts thought he was headed here. This explains why he hasn't announced. He didn't want Hines pissed at him.
Lemonis needs to be shown the door. The way the season went. Followed by the drug out PC search (yes we have forgotten about that already). And then not picking up anyone great out of the portal. There are SEC level pitchers still enrolled in lessor programs that would come here if we knew how to handle business.

[Pancho]

All we can do now is wait and hope.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

The 2 transfers that are committed are not going to announce until after Team USA is done playing which is the 14th of July I believe. One assumes it is Montgomery and Holman.

Aged like fine milk

[Leeshouldveflanked]

A&M recruited Montgomery while he was in High School, MSU didnt. Very poor evaluation more than anything else.

[TNDawg35]

So do we actually have confirmation that’s where he is going or we all just melting over a visit to A&M? Did y’all think he wasn’t gonna take any visits or anything?

[The Federalist Engineer]

The "Elite" Recruiter

If you take away the SEC, Dudy Nobel, MSU Tradition of Winning, Canns/Cohen/Henderson 2021 players ....

Seems Lemons is a very marginal recruiter compared to what even Bohanon would haul with Lemonis' advantages. He has a career 10-33 record versus SEC power teams. He is not a peer to Vitello, Van Horn, or Corbin. Probably Van Horne and Vitello consider MSU like near gimme Sweeps, even in Starkville.

[Coach34]

Be Good or Be Gone in 24

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Depends on what we land in the portal. If we get Montgomery he will help in the OF and potentially on the mound as well. As it is we've simply filled our holes for the most part outside of getting an elite Friday night starting pitcher. Of course, we're still working on the portal at this time.

Again- I don't think people really fathom just how bad we were on the mound. So a lot of fans have assumed that our pitchers just suck. It was really an issue of the pitchers being asked to pitch in a way a lot of them could not, leaving pitchers in way too long, and just not developing them as individual players. I'm not sure how we had a winning record- that's probably more of a testament to the talent we actually do have. Our pitching coach was essentially the equivalent of Peter Sirmon as a pitching coach. I think how we handled our staff may have contributed to some of the injuries we've had- not Tommy John- the ones where a guy is out for a couple of weeks here and there.

But if we get Montgomery to go along with Hines and Dakota and then add in a legit Friday night guy we're going to probably see a jump similar to what we saw from 2015 to 2016. And we could probably accomplish that by getting our team ERA on the season down to 5.00 which is not great. If Parker gets us in the 4's we're going to have a very good year. And that's really not a stretch at all.

Todd, we didn't get Montgomery and we didn't get the Friday guy.

What's your updated outlook for next year?