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07-16-2023, 02:24 PM
#901
If, and I say if because they aren't officially in the boat yet, we get both Holman and Montgomery, you have to start feeling pretty good about next year. I think Parker can vastly improve Loo, Loftin, and Holcombe.
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07-16-2023, 02:27 PM
#902

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
Haven?t heard that at all. Holman has visited State once and he is visiting State again on his last visit. That says a lot .
Seems to be some back and forth on the visit schedule. We'll see who gets last visit.
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07-16-2023, 02:31 PM
#903

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Seems to be some back and forth on the visit schedule. We'll see who gets last visit.
Just heard that. It seems to be LSU now
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07-16-2023, 02:50 PM
#904

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
Just heard that. It seems to be LSU now
Might as well cross him off
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07-16-2023, 02:53 PM
#905
If we don't get another ace, Parker will have to work a miracle in the off-season
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07-16-2023, 03:03 PM
#906

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
Haven?t heard that at all. Holman has visited State once and he is visiting State again on his last visit. That says a lot .
It?s not looking good for us at the moment
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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07-16-2023, 03:13 PM
#907

Originally Posted by
Coach34
It?s not looking good for us at the moment
You could argue that Holman is more important than Montgomery
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07-16-2023, 03:14 PM
#908

Originally Posted by
Coach34
It?s not looking good for us at the moment
Is it just money at this point?
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07-16-2023, 03:18 PM
#909
In the article that I read, he was talking about player development. I?d say Coach is right, not looking good for us. Right now, it?s looking like we are going to have to hope Parker can work miracles and really turn the current staff around and hope a couple of new guys perform better than expected.
Lemonis capitalized on the national title when it comes to classes that were 3 and 4 years out (if they stick with us), but failed miserably using the portal to bridge the gap. Now he has not only lost any momentum from us living in Omaha for a few years and winning a title, but has put us in a place of serious disadvantage.
Last edited by AlSwearengen; 07-16-2023 at 03:26 PM.
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07-16-2023, 03:27 PM
#910

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Is it just money at this point?
Doesn’t sound like it. These guys are high draft types that aren’t short sighted. They want to be coached by coaches that are competent and that can help them progress.
If Parker can work miracles and turn our staff around and turn Loo and others into top draft choices, then we can get recruit’s attention when it comes to development. Until then, we are sucking hind tit in that department.
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07-16-2023, 04:05 PM
#911

Originally Posted by
AlSwearengen
In the article that I read, he was talking about player development. I?d say Coach is right, not looking good for us. Right now, it?s looking like we are going to have to hope Parker can work miracles and really turn the current staff around and hope a couple of new guys perform better than expected.
Lemonis capitalized on the national title when it comes to classes that were 3 and 4 years out (if they stick with us), but failed miserably using the portal to bridge the gap. Now he has not only lost any momentum from us living in Omaha for a few years and winning a title, but has put us in a place of serious disadvantage.
Absolutely BS there was ever a "bridge" needed.
Cohen obviously knew how to recruit and left the program in great shape.
Cann came in , held the Cohen class together, and recruited 1 class of his own. He was billed as an elite recruiter and evaluator. Brought in some absolute STUDS.
Henderson took over for 4 months, after which all recruiting was handed to Lemonis. But sure, let's call it an entire year lost to recruitment for the sale of argument
Lemo was handed a well oiled machine by Cohen and Cann, and used it well for the first 3 seasons. Year 4 -when Lemos own HS recruits started rolling in- is when things fell off a cliff in talent and culture.
This is YEAR 5, and we want to say the team is in a bad spot due to the HS recruiting of the former coaches? Naw, that ain't going to fly
Last edited by the_real_MSU_is_us; 07-16-2023 at 04:31 PM.
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07-16-2023, 04:30 PM
#912

Originally Posted by
AlSwearengen
Doesn?t sound like it. These guys are high draft types that aren?t short sighted. They want to be coached by coaches that are competent and that can help them progress.
If Parker can work miracles and turn our staff around and turn Loo and others into top draft choices, then we can get recruit?s attention when it comes to development. Until then, we are sucking hind tit in that department.
Has lsu hired a pitching coach? Yeskie?
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07-16-2023, 04:30 PM
#913

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Is it just money at this point?
No
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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07-16-2023, 04:35 PM
#914

Originally Posted by
confucius say
Has lsu hired a pitching coach? Yeskie?
They hired Yeski from A&M. A&M hired a giy from the mariners with a title like "pitching development coordinator". Not a coach, but in charge of evaluating, drafting, and development for the organization. Only 28
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07-16-2023, 04:40 PM
#915

Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
Absolutely BS there was ever a "bridge" needed.
Cohen obviously knew how to recruit and left the program in great shape.
Cann came in , held the Cohen class together, and recruited 1 class of his own. He was billed as an elite recruiter and evaluator. Brought in some absolute STUDS.
Henderson took over for 4 months, after which all recruiting was handed to Lemonis. But sure, let's call it an entire year lost to recruitment for the sale of argument
Lemo was handed a well oiled machine by Cohen and Cann, and used it well for the first 3 seasons. Year 4 -when Lemos own HS recruits started rolling in- is when things fell off a cliff in talent and culture.
This is YEAR 5, and we want to say the team is in a bad spot due to the HS recruiting of the former coaches? Naw, that ain't going to fly
Our problem is simply lack of pitching. We are working hard to trot out the SEC’s best line-up in 2024. Our huge questions lie in the pitching department.
Ultimately the blame is on Lemon. No doubt. I think he messed up and left a lot of the pitching recruiting to Fox and Cheese. Didn’t focus on it as much as he should have. Our last 2 years on the mound have just been abysmal. His last chance to right the ship is now thru May. We’ll see what happens
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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07-16-2023, 04:41 PM
#916
Well this thread definitely took a turn...of the depressing variety...
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07-16-2023, 04:54 PM
#917

Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
Well this thread definitely took a turn...of the depressing variety...
Well, while we are certainly a baseball blue blood- some people need to realize no matter who our coach is- if certain teams want certain players- we are going to lose most of those battles. The rest of the SEC prioritizing baseball also is simply making it harder for us than it used to be. Our best teams have always had a few stars with a bunch of blue-collars. I don’t see us having the crazy amounts of draft picks like LSU, Vandy, or Tenn having. LSU had 13 drafted, Tenn 8, Vandy 7.
No matter who coaches us- we aren’t going to have draft classes of 8-10 players
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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07-16-2023, 04:59 PM
#918

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Our problem is simply lack of pitching. We are working hard to trot out the SEC?s best line-up in 2024. Our huge questions lie in the pitching department.
Ultimately the blame is on Lemon. No doubt. I think he messed up and left a lot of the pitching recruiting to Fox and Cheese. Didn?t focus on it as much as he should have. Our last 2 years on the mound have just been abysmal. His last chance to right the ship is now thru May. We?ll see what happens
If memory serves me, these past 2 years we've been 10th and 9th in runs scored. Of course everyone knows our defense was league worst last year.
How can you say we "just need pitching" when faced with these stats? Like yeah the lineup is looking good for '24 (and awful for 25) but Lemo still gets the blame for these past 2 lineups.
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07-16-2023, 05:10 PM
#919
We won the CWS being 8th or 9th in the SEC in runs scored. Our problem has been pitching and everybody knows it
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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07-16-2023, 05:10 PM
#920
Had we not pissed away that '21 championship by sitting on our lazy asses and we'd been competing, we could get anyone. We can handle the money rush. It's not just the money. Holman has a massive offer from us. But he seems to like Yeskie and LSU is winning. I'd say let's wait and see. It's not over. It's just a battle for the only legit arm available.
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