Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
Isn't that what we're doing if we keep Lemonis? Fool me twice, one more chance?
Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
Funny since this is basically the same thing as keeping Lemonis. The pitching has been beyond bad but so has almost every other aspect. Other than "recruiting" which is pretty much always in the top 10-15, what does Lemonis bring to the table next year?

He didn't even maintain Indiana. They regressed his first 3 years and finally won 40 games his 4th year. The two previous years before Lemonis was 49 wins and 44 wins.
Quote Originally Posted by State82 View Post
Come on, Todd. You are a knowledgeable baseball guy. Where in any of this did you come up with the fact we would be throwing shit against a wall?
You're basically advocating doing a search just to do one without any thought of any other ramification to the program or thought of how a search now might turn out. But hey! We showed that mother ****er how we do baseball at MSU because I'm mad right?**

The reason it's throwing shit against the wall is because yeah- that might work out. But it's going to have to be because we found a guy who is an unknown or assistant with no experience and it just happened to work. However, odds of that working are really, really low.

Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
Todd, the buyout will cost State $0. They have people willing to cover that. They simply don't want to do it. Stop slobbing on the Lemonis knob. The guy sucks!
The buyout is only one piece of the puzzle and you know it. Sure we can pay it. And guess where that money isn't going if we spend it? NIL for other sports or for other projects for MSU athletics. If I told you that you could buy something now for 6 million and with the high risk of something not working out or you could wait a year and spend 2 million and likely get something much better which would you do? And one reason we may not want to spend the Seal money right now is because we have a football coach that is still a massive unknown at this point and right now his recruiting isn't looking so hot. Oh yeah- and we have pay the new staff too. For the type of coach we want and expect that's not going to be cheap either.

Not to mention at least 5 SEC games that we blew massive leads because of pitching and it's very logical to let him try with another year with a new pitching coach. We could very realistically lower our team ERA by two runs which still isn't very good and potentially end up with a regional host bid with the team we return and the recruits we have coming in.