I'm telling you now...

[Saltydog]

Nobody is going to accept less. We are very unlikely to pay $6MM in dead money in a Biden economy. Plus more to get a new staff.

Lemon has a Top 10 recruiting class and that will likely save him

What about the vaunted class he brought in last year? Yeah, we have some nice position players that are frosh but on the mound it's not good. Other than Lo and Loftin what talent is there? Forsythe, Gibbs, Hardin, Siary, Tapper haven't impressed at all.

[Todd4State]

What about the vaunted class he brought in last year? Yeah, we have some nice position players that are frosh but on the mound it's not good. Other than Lo and Loftin what talent is there? Forsythe, Gibbs, Hardin, Siary, Tapper haven't impressed at all.

You're not impressed with freshmen who have had very little coaching?

All the guys you mentioned have potential outside of Hardin.

[sandjunky]

Say what you will, I still believe he is gone

[BrunswickDawg]

He also took over a program that was so incredibly outdated in every phase of running a program that it took us 3 years to bring the program into the 21st century.

So backwards it was only a year removed from a CWS? Look, Polk was old school and was never the same after he retired the first time in '92 and changed his mind. He needed to retire. But, we gave the guy our stadium is named after a shorter leash then what Lemonis is getting. Polk II had 1 losing season - his last.

[bulldogcountry1]

they didn't fire anyone. Lemo did that on his own to attempt to save his own ass. If they want more of the same next year, they will retain him. end of story

If Foxhall had a buyout, Lemonis didn?t fire him on his own. Someone had to pay him to leave, and Lemonis had to get them to sign off in it.

[Saltydog]

You're not impressed with freshmen who have had very little coaching?

All the guys you mentioned have potential outside of Hardin.

Potential to get their shit pushed in. I don't see power arms there maybe other than Forsythe and I could see Tapper being a lefty specialists but the rest should be in a mid major, not sec. Sure the bad development is on Foxhall but the bad evaluation and recruitment is on lemonis.

[Coach34]

If Foxhall had a buyout, Lemonis didn?t fire him on his own. Someone had to pay him to leave, and Lemonis had to get them to sign off in it.

Exactly. Lemonis had to ask permission to fire Fox

[DownwardDawg]

Exactly. Lemonis had to ask permission to fire Fox

Permission granted. There. It's that easy. When the head coach wants to fire someone he fires them.

[Pinto]

We were talking about this at the game yesterday. When was the last time a coach had to slap a C on someone?s chest to denote captain? That was sign one we were in trouble. All our good/great teams had that alpha dog the everyone knew was the captain without saying it or recognizing it.

We have no leadership and in the words of Julius Campbell, Attitude reflects leadership. As far back as I can remember we have had 3 or 4 clubhouse leaders on our teams. Whether that be a Will Clark, a Tommy Raffo, a Travis Chapman, a Mitch Moreland, a Conner Powers, a Hunter Renfroe, a Manniscalco, or hell even a Brooks Bryan

[bulldogcountry1]

Permission granted. There. It's that easy. When the head coach wants to fire someone he fires them.

Not if they have a contract that says you have to pay me a million dollars to fire me.

[maroonmania]

I'm not a Lemon fan. Havent been. BUTTTTTTTTTTTT

4 seasons- 2 CWS. Top 10 recruiting classes. A Natty. A Top 10 Recruiting class for 2023. Hard to fire that guy

Baseball recruiting rankings are the least reliable recruiting rankings in all of college athletics. OM has been having Top 10 rankings as well WITH a guy that has a 20 year track record and they suck as bad as we do.

[Saltydog]

So, what's the deal with Alford? I keep hearing people saying he's a problem. I know he was part of the issue in frisco earlier this year and apparently something happened last night but could it be that's he's competitive and just irritated by the losing or has he become a cancer in the clubhouse blaming others, yada, yada. From what I gather earlier in the year he picked a fight with the wrong guy.

[SpaceWranglerDawg]

We're looking right down the barrel of a 10+ year repair if something doesn't change.

[Todd4State]

Potential to get their shit pushed in. I don't see power arms there maybe other than Forsythe and I could see Tapper being a lefty specialists but the rest should be in a mid major, not sec. Sure the bad development is on Foxhall but the bad evaluation and recruitment is on lemonis.

Let's see how they look with a pitching coach and then we'll decide who belongs and who doesn't. At least Tapper actually attacks hitters.

[raymonddawg]

IMO there is probably less than 10% chance Lem is fired. Its just not gonna happen like that.

We need to hire the best available pitching coach and let him identify a handful of players and attack the transfer portal for pitchers. This team with a competitive pitching staff could be a pretty good squad.

[Cowbell]

IMO there is probably less than 10% chance Lem is fired. Its just not gonna happen like that.

We need to hire the best available pitching coach and let him identify a handful of players and attack the transfer portal for pitchers. This team with a competitive pitching staff could be a pretty good squad.

This team with a pretty competitive coaching staff could be a pretty good squad too

[maroonmania]

IMO there is probably less than 10% chance Lem is fired. Its just not gonna happen like that.

We need to hire the best available pitching coach and let him identify a handful of players and attack the transfer portal for pitchers. This team with a competitive pitching staff could be a pretty good squad.

I thought that at one point but is a pitching coach going to correct fielding of routine fly balls or a routine grounder? Is a pitching coach going change our HR or nothing approach to offense? I think we have a lot more problems than just pitching although there is no doubt pitching is our worst problem.

[Homedawg]

We were talking about this at the game yesterday. When was the last time a coach had to slap a C on someone?s chest to denote captain? That was sign one we were in trouble. All our good/great teams had that alpha dog the everyone knew was the captain without saying it or recognizing it.

We have had captains for a long time. Back to the Polk Era. This is just the first time there has ever been a C put on the jersey. Don't know if Cohen had them or not. But this entire thing of the C on the chest is being WWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overblown. We aren't losing bc Luke has a C on his chest. Just Silly.

[Mjoelner34]

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[Mjoelner34]

IMO there is probably less than 10% chance Lem is fired. Its just not gonna happen like that.

We need to hire the best available pitching coach who knows he only has 1 year to totally straighten out our pitching staffand let him identify a handful of players and attack the transfer portal for pitchers. This team with a competitive pitching staff could be a pretty good squad.

Fifty because if we keep Lemonis, any pitching coach we get is walking straight into that situation.