We are not lighting it up in recruiting

[Cowbell]

I'm not a fan of taking unranked guys early, but in Mississippi, sometimes that means nothing. Wasn't Chris jones unranked?

Agreed. I feel confident that if we are taking kids this early, there is a reason. We have not wasted many scholarships on defense since arnette has been at the helm.

[Todd4State]

I'm not a fan of taking unranked guys early, but in Mississippi, sometimes that means nothing. Wasn't Chris jones unranked?

How about unranked guys from Alabama and Louisiana?

You aren't gonna immediately clean it up in recruiting in 3 months time at a non-blue blood. Ain't happening. These guys did well to finish recruiting for this past cycle and you think you guys could give them the benefit of the doubt after less than 90 days of them been together.

I don't even recall Dan starting a class like this. This sincerely looks like a Croom 2005 class so far.

Moreso the issue is in state targets that have committed elsewhere. It's one thing to if they were uncommitted still- but with guys like Harrell, Daniels, and Noreel White committed to other schools that's not a good look. That's a lot of guys to try to flip.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Not when Dan took him. He was an unranked prospect. He debut at 4* late in the summer and worked his way up to #2 DL overall by the end behind Nkimdiche.

[dawgday166]

Too early to be worried about it. The sky ain't falling just yet.

When the class is final tho, we better end up with at least that 5* Dlineman and maybe both of the 5*s. That is unless they don't have the grades or there are character issues or something like that. Maybe also if one goes to Bama or Gawga.

We should get a minimum of 2 of the top 4 in state guys IMO cause they all play positions we typically send to the League.

[SpaceBully]

I'm not a fan of taking unranked guys early, but in Mississippi, sometimes that means nothing. Wasn't Chris jones unranked?

Believe he was a 2 star for a brief period. Then jumped up to a 3 fairly quickly. Then his films started getting around to the recruiting services and he blew up all the way to a legit 5 star.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

We have one of the lowest recruiting budgets in the group of 5. The lowest recruiting budget in the SEC excluding Vandy. Ole Miss recruiting budget is 3 times our budget. Our NIL is the lowest in the SEC and we spend the majority of our NIL keeping players on our roster.

[ZedFedder]

I think Arnett will do well here. I think he has the right mindset, tools, and ability.

I also am very underwhelmed by the start of this class.

Both can be true.

[Pancho]

We have one of the lowest recruiting budgets in the group of 5. The lowest recruiting budget in the SEC excluding Vandy. Ole Miss recruiting budget is 3 times our budget. Our NIL is the lowest in the SEC and we spend the majority of our NIL keeping players on our roster.

and grass is still green

[KB21]

Recruiting would be better right now had Arnett kept most of the previous staff.

[PGHBulldogBG]

How do people know the NIL allotments and who has more money than who? I thought those numbers were kind of kept secured up. Why would Ole Miss have 3 times the amount of NIL than State for recruiting? That doesn’t really make sense unless we truly do not have fans with the same financial success in life than Ole Miss? I mean I understand Bama, UGA, LSU, UF, Tenn, aTm and Auburn having more money, but not sure why we would be worse off than the SEC teams outside that group

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I questioned several of our hires. Bumphis doesn't have an impressive college coaching resume, but I was told he'll help with MS kids. Friend was hated by TN and Auburn fans, but I was told he'll recruit well in state. Hughes was kept for his in state recruiting. We rehired Peterson who has instate ties.not saying any particular hire is bad, just that it's a LOT of MS recruiting logic

Like, how much MS coverage do you need before you get diminishing returns? If a kid doesn't want to come to State, having more State coaches recruit him won't change that. If a HS has no SEC caliber players, having 2 coaches pour over their game film vs 1 won't help us.

The recruiting foundation should be MS, I 100% agree with that. We HAVE to find our diamonds in the rough and get on them before they blow up. But we also HAVE to bring intakent from out of state. And if we can't bring in out of state guys AND we can't win the top instate kids, well that's a disaster.

All that said, its too early to call the staff out. It's not looking good and many insiders are alluding to bad rumors, but let's see who signs in December before we call out anyone.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Recruiting would be better right now had Arnett kept most of the previous staff.

Sure it would be better "right now" because they had kids they had been working on. Kids have not seen what we are going to look like schematically yet. Going forward it remains to be seen.
And, with the portal, if it HS recruiting takes a cycle to get going we can always pull guys who are ready to play now.

[Leroy Jenkins]

We have one of the lowest recruiting budgets in the group of 5. The lowest recruiting budget in the SEC excluding Vandy. Ole Miss recruiting budget is 3 times our budget. Our NIL is the lowest in the SEC and we spend the majority of our NIL keeping players on our roster.

And we will end up with a class between 20-30 per usual.

[bulldogcountry1]

I guess the way the staff held together the recruiting class and the existing roster is already forgotten.

[KOdawg1]

There's legit reason to be concerned. There's no reason to melt yet

[Homedawg]

https://247sports.com/Player/Chris-J...-school-34333/


5 star

Chris Jones was unranked when we took his commitment. Nobody knew about him.

[Homedawg]

Recruiting would be better right now had Arnett kept most of the previous staff.

Bc it was sooo much better at this time last year right???? Just shut up

[Leroy Jenkins]

Chris Jones was unranked when we took his commitment. Nobody knew about him.

Yeah. I think that falls into the "tell me you dont know what you are talking about without telling me you dont know what you are talking about" category.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Mayfield is a very good player on a (how to say this nicely) not good Louisiana 4A team.

[1bigdawg]

I questioned several of our hires. Bumphis doesn't have an impressive college coaching resume, but I was told he'll help with MS kids. Friend was hated by TN and Auburn fans, but I was told he'll recruit well in state. Hughes was kept for his in state recruiting. We rehired Peterson who has instate ties.not saying any particular hire is bad, just that it's a LOT of MS recruiting logic

Like, how much MS coverage do you need before you get diminishing returns? If a kid doesn't want to come to State, having more State coaches recruit him won't change that. If a HS has no SEC caliber players, having 2 coaches pour over their game film vs 1 won't help us.

The recruiting foundation should be MS, I 100% agree with that. We HAVE to find our diamonds in the rough and get on them before they blow up. But we also HAVE to bring intakent from out of state. And if we can't bring in out of state guys AND we can't win the top instate kids, well that's a disaster.

All that said, its too early to call the staff out. It's not looking good and many insiders are alluding to bad rumors, but let's see who signs in December before we call out anyone.

Bumphis was the WR coach for the two time PAC champion. What is not impressive about that?