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I know how folks feel here about Minshew but check this out
https://twitter.com/rivals_robbie/st...85941121667072
I just don't want to miss out on the best pro style qb to come up in MS in a long time. The kid is smart and studies the game and is gonna be a good one
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I like the kid but we haven't had a lot of luck with short QBs (Favre) . I saw him play last year and if you had to pick someone he reminds you of is Chase Daniels . I'm sure if we miss on our top 2 or 3 targets I could see us offering
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Originally Posted by
whosyourdawgy
As long as Mullen is our coach, I want no part of pro-style QB's...Period!
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He is about 6 2 right now and a solid 215 or so. He isn't short. He's not 6 5 but what does that matter in all honesty? The kid gets it and this board loves IT
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It would be a shame to miss out on him especially if he goes somewhere else and does well.
I think whomever we take at QB is going to have to do well at the Big Dawg Camp no matter what. I think Dan and Brian are going to want to see all comers and see who the best person to take it.
I still am of the opinion that we should take both Minchew and Smith. Both are very good IMO. Let both of them compete and the best player gets the job. I think it could be positive if we do it correctly where they are both basically pushing and challenging each other to get better.
As much as I like Minchew, I think J'Mar Smith is also very good.
And FWIW- the great Rosebowl had J'Mar Smith ranked 14th and Minchew ranked 16th, which I thought was interesting.
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Originally Posted by
HailState39110
I like the kid but we haven't had a lot of luck with short QBs (Favre) . I saw him play last year and if you had to pick someone he reminds you of is Chase Daniels . I'm sure if we miss on our top 2 or 3 targets I could see us offering
If he's 6'2"- he's the exact same height as Joe Montana. And if he's 215, he's closer to Dak's size than Dylan Favre's.
Last edited by Todd4State; 03-16-2014 at 03:52 PM.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
As long as Mullen is our coach, I want no part of pro-style QB's...Period!
Minchew is going to have to train to become more of a dual threat QB for sure. There's no doubt about that. And I think that will be one of the things that Dan and Brian will be looking at with him.
If he can get up to 220-225 while increasing his speed a little bit by the time camp comes around, it would be hard not to take him with his football IQ. He does need to increase his arm strength a tick as well.
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I think he's a can't miss talent who could run in out offense as well if not better than Tyson Les did. Staley isn't a run first guy either. We're not scared to take the best QB. I can't begin to understand why some folks continually fail to see this...
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Alex Smith is one of the most underrated rushers of all time. All I can remember from those Urban Utah years is Alex gutting people up the left side for 15 when he couldn't find an open receiver.
Don't let TR ruin the Mullen-pro passer for you. He was a statue back there, but there are a lot of guys who can get it done. TR not being a threat to pick up yards with his feet really limited his passing effectiveness.
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I agree he would be a good pick up for us , but we will probably only take one QB in the 2015 class. And I doubt he is in the top 3 on our big board..
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Originally Posted by
mic
I agree he would be a good pick up for us , but we will probably only take one QB in the 2015 class. And I doubt he is in the top 3 on our big board..
Agreed.
I don't see us taking two QBs two years in a row.
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I saw Dylan Favre play in high school, at MSU and at Pearl River. He flew by the seat of his pants (which Minshew certainly does not). When Favre was really on he was really good. I just never saw him "on" past high school.
I wouldn't compare the two.
The Plantation has never won an SEC regular season Championship in ANY men's sport with an integrated team. That defines irrelevance.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
As long as Mullen is our coach, I want no part of pro-style QB's...Period!
agree 100%
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Originally Posted by
whosyourdawgy
I just don't want to miss out on the best pro style qb to come up in MS in a long time.
Who was the last great pro style QB to come up in MS? His name was Tyler Russell and that debate is over.
I hope the kid does great things, just not against MSU. Mullen was forced to take Russell as his QB signee, despite the fact that he fit Mullen's offense about as well as Tyson Lee. Mullen doesn't have to take QB's due to in state pressure.
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
Who was the last great pro style QB to come up in MS? His name was Tyler Russell and that debate is over.
I hope the kid does great things, just not against MSU. Mullen was forced to take Russell as his QB signee, despite the fact that he fit Mullen's offense about as well as Tyson Lee. Mullen doesn't have to take QB's due to in state pressure.
I don't think Tyler is proof that Mullen can't use a pro-style QB effectively. While Tyler has an incredible arm, he never did look comfortable going through the progression and getting the ball out quickly. In my opinion, that hurt his effectiveness much more than the system did. That and not using a power back alongside him to keep the defense honest in short yardage situations.
That being said, I'd still rather have a dual-threat QB under Mullen.
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Part of me wants him because I understand he grew up a State fan but he is not the

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
As long as Mullen is our coach, I want no part of pro-style QB's...Period!
best fit for the Mullen system or Ole Miss for that matter. He probably should go to a place where his skills will be valued
and he has a chance to develop to the next level. He needs to do what is best for him at this point.
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Originally Posted by
whosyourdawgy
He is not 6' 2". I have stood next to him several times and I am 6'1" and he is not as tall as me.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
Staley isn't a run first guy either.
Staley runs far better than Minshew does; they're not really comparable. Staley wasn't really a 'run-first' guy in HS, but he could absolutely do it when he wanted to. Their offense was just built more around the quick pass game.
Staley will run our offense pretty similarly to the way Prescott does. He is 6'7", about 240, and can run well. We will let him do so routinely.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
Staley runs far better than Minshew does; they're not really comparable. Staley wasn't really a 'run-first' guy in HS, but he could absolutely do it when he wanted to. Their offense was just built more around the quick pass game.
Staley will run our offense pretty similarly to the way Prescott does. He is 6'7", about 240, and can run well. We will let him do so routinely.
I actually see Minshew as a better downfield runner than Staley. if Minshew had half the arm strength of Staley he'd be a 4 star kid. That's the hold up. He's fine athletically despite not being required to run in his HS offense. Staley will be a grinder with his size and being able to plunge run for 3-6 yards a pop when needed. Minshew runs to open space well.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
As long as Mullen is our coach, I want no part of pro-style QB's...Period!
You get it. This offense is built around the threat of the QB as a runner. When you don't have that, you get stagnant.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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