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					01-27-2023, 06:11 PM
				
			
			
				
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				Someone that can actually operate in a passing offense would have been good.
			
		 
	 
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					01-27-2023, 06:16 PM
				
			
			
				
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				I see Mike Wright as a comparable to Nick Fitzgerald. We loved that guy but he would not have started at QB for any other school in the SEC. Mike Wright is exactly where he should be.
			
		 
	 
 Fitz was abetter passer.   During Fitz time here, he had few quality WRs too.  I do not want to go back to that.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					01-27-2023, 06:55 PM
				
			
			
				
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							It will be hard to recruit WRa and QBs to this offense.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					01-27-2023, 07:22 PM
				
			
			
				
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				RJ Martinez from Northern Arizona.  Committed to Baylor instead.
			
		 
	 
 I said who we could get realistically.  Kid was going to a Texas school, he's from Austin. He didn't even want our coaches to visit.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					01-27-2023, 07:23 PM
				
			
			
				
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				It will be hard to recruit WRa and QBs to this offense.
			
		 
	 
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					01-27-2023, 07:25 PM
				
			
			
				
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				My point is that we should not like a "trend" towards that.  Nothing more.   Nothing less.
Wait now.  I'm suppose to be ok with Ole Miss getting QBs with a higher up side than  us now?     Is that where we are?   What I want is to attract the players needed at MSU to take the next step.   What I don't want is to "love the trend" used in the same sentence as a career back up throwing it at a 52%.  
Does that make me anti Arnett.   No. 
Point?  Se above.     I made no vague statement.   I was clear.  Celebrating a 52% QB and career back up and hoping that is a trend is legit nuts.    There is no perceived problem.  It's a legit problem to have a massive gap below Rogers and above Parson.    It more than concerning.
He is not an SEC starter.   He lost out to 2 different QBs in his career at Vandy.    This past season, he lost out to a freshman and played due to injuries:
Vandy’s junior quarterback will be the starter at the position once again when the Commodores take the field at 11 a.m. CT Saturday in Lexington, Kentucky. Wright resumes the role he began the season with as freshman AJ Swann will be out this week due to injury.
			
		 
	 
 Oh I see, you are a fool with an agenda and no solution to your perceived problem. In other words an obnoxious whiney troll.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					01-27-2023, 07:28 PM
				
			
			
				
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				It will be hard to recruit WRa and QBs to this offense.
			
		 
	 
 Not at all with how many explosive plays the WR's get, much better than Leach's 3 yard check downs only to get blasted by a defender.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
				
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					01-27-2023, 07:49 PM
				
			
			
				
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Reason2succeed
					
				 
				IGNORE TROLLS
			
		 
	 
 Nobody is trolling.  I don't have a single problem with what the staff has done except for the lack of quality depth at QB.   We will have more shots at the end of spring.    A 52% passer is an issue and I don't care at what level you playin at let alone in the SEC.  
It's a problem and the staff has to make up ground there.
Want perspective on that:
LSU in 2021 finished last in SECW.   They threw it for 60%
This year:
115 	Indiana 	53.96% 	48.65% 	58.14% 	57.93% 	48.09% 	50.27%  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Won 4 games 
116 	Miami (OH) 	53.85% 	45.83% 	55.56% 	54.84% 	53.19% 	57.25% >>>>>>>>>>>  Won 6 games 
117 	Florida 	53.20% 	51.09% 	59.09% 	54.23% 	52.48% 	62.04% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   won 6
118 	TX El Paso 	53.16% 	54.93% 	48.00% 	55.15% 	51.63% 	54.39% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   won 5
119 	Virginia 	53.07% 	52.13% 	51.52% 	56.36% 	49.31% 	63.15% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won 3
120 	Hawaii 	52.67% 	53.78% 	55.56% 	52.87% 	52.44% 	55.38% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Won 3
121 	New Mexico 	51.88% 	52.11% 	44.44% 	52.73% 	51.16% 	51.95% >>>>>>>>>>> Won 2
122 	Auburn 	50.87% 	46.43% 	47.83% 	57.22% 	39.00% 	58.99%  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Won 5
123 	Wyoming 	50.00% 	44.00% 	60.00% 	52.99% 	47.77% 	54.24%>>>>>>>>>>>>Won 7
124 	Rutgers 	49.84% 	47.25% 	36.36% 	49.10% 	50.71% 	56.99% ................... won 4...   
125 	Colorado 	49.72% 	46.48% 	53.57% 	55.87% 	40.82% 	56.69%
126 	W Michigan 	49.36% 	41.43% 	33.33% 	43.26% 	54.39% 	63.01%
127 	N Mex State 	49.22% 	57.75% 	58.62% 	52.69% 	47.24% 	55.97%
128 	U Mass 	48.06% 	50.55% 	52.00% 	48.84% 	47.67% 	49.08%
129 	Air Force 	46.91% 	41.67% 	57.14% 	48.28% 	46.15% 	48.15%
130 	Navy 	43.36% 	38.89% 	25.00% 	32.35% 	48.10% 	49.48%
131 	Army 	42.00%
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					01-27-2023, 07:56 PM
				
			
			
				
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Really Clark?
					
				 
				Oh I see, you are a fool with an agenda and no solution to your perceived problem. In other words an obnoxious whiney troll.
			
		 
	 
 
A fool thinks that a 52% passer is what we need.   
The solution is to recruit better QBs in the next window.   
It's not a perceived problem. It is a problem as shown with any year you want to look at when teams complete passes at that rate.  It's not perceived when we have an issue between the starter and Parson is injured.  That's a reality.
Troll?  That's what people go to when they can't defend or have any other meaning comment.      Not a damn thing I stated was factually wrong and I backed up what I stated with team finishes.   If Will goes down, 52% will not win us games in the SEC.  The QB room is a problem right now.
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					01-27-2023, 08:20 PM
				
			
			
				
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				A fool thinks that a 52% passer is what we need.   
The solution is to recruit better QBs in the next window.   
It's not a perceived problem. It is a problem as shown with any year you want to look at when teams complete passes at that rate.  It's not perceived when we have an issue between the starter and Parson is injured.  That's a reality.
Troll?  That's what people go to when they can't defend or have any other meaning comment.      Not a damn thing I stated was factually wrong and I backed up what I stated with team finishes.   If Will goes down, 52% will not win us games in the SEC.  The QB room is a problem right now.
Whose problem is it to fix?  HC Arnett.    So let's get to work to find the next 2 years QB and more.
			
		 
	 
 Oh calling you a troll has nothing to do with no defense for your absurd stance a week later. It has everything to do with all your posts actually coming from a troll who only wants to complain with no real solution, just bitching to bitch. 
Wright completed 57.4% of his passes this year, not 52%. If you are going to be a troll, at least be an accurate troll. 12 TD 4 INT and 134.06 passer rating (Will was only 139.08). So again, why you bitching with inaccurate stats,
We went after several QB's and still looking to add another. This is someone with actual SEC experience and was a good get to be a backup, no matter how much you bitch about it, doesn't change it was a dang good pick up.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					01-27-2023, 08:49 PM
				
			
			
				
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Really Clark?
					
				 
				Oh calling you a troll has nothing to do with no defense for your absurd stance a week later. It has everything to do with all your posts actually coming from a troll who only wants to complain with no real solution, just bitching to bitch. 
Wright completed 57.4% of his passes this year, not 52%. If you are going to be a troll, at least be an accurate troll. 12 TD 4 INT and 134.06 passer rating (Will was only 139.08). So again, why you bitching with inaccurate stats,
We went after several QB's and still looking to add another. This is someone with actual SEC experience and was a good get to be a backup, no matter how much you bitch about it, doesn't change it was a dang good pick up.
			
		 
	 
 That's your own misconceptions.   I didn't complain about Wright coming here.   I stated that this can not be the norm.   A trend.... which is what was being said.
You are right.  He is a 52% passer when you add it all in.  If you want to not add in UGA, that's fine.   That puts him at 55% over the past 2 season.  
Tenn: 53.8
UK: 52.2
SC: 53.3
Wake: 53.3
Either way, you can ignore it all you want.  This is not a trend we want.    Parsons, yes.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					01-27-2023, 09:02 PM
				
			
			
				
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				Nobody is trolling.  I don't have a single problem with what the staff has done except for the lack of quality depth at QB.   We will have more shots at the end of spring.    A 52% passer is an issue and I don't care at what level you playin at let alone in the SEC.  
It's a problem and the staff has to make up ground there.
Want perspective on that:
LSU in 2021 finished last in SECW.   They threw it for 60%
This year:
115 	Indiana 	53.96% 	48.65% 	58.14% 	57.93% 	48.09% 	50.27%  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Won 4 games 
116 	Miami (OH) 	53.85% 	45.83% 	55.56% 	54.84% 	53.19% 	57.25% >>>>>>>>>>>  Won 6 games 
117 	Florida 	53.20% 	51.09% 	59.09% 	54.23% 	52.48% 	62.04% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   won 6
118 	TX El Paso 	53.16% 	54.93% 	48.00% 	55.15% 	51.63% 	54.39% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   won 5
119 	Virginia 	53.07% 	52.13% 	51.52% 	56.36% 	49.31% 	63.15% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won 3
120 	Hawaii 	52.67% 	53.78% 	55.56% 	52.87% 	52.44% 	55.38% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Won 3
121 	New Mexico 	51.88% 	52.11% 	44.44% 	52.73% 	51.16% 	51.95% >>>>>>>>>>> Won 2
122 	Auburn 	50.87% 	46.43% 	47.83% 	57.22% 	39.00% 	58.99%  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Won 5
123 	Wyoming 	50.00% 	44.00% 	60.00% 	52.99% 	47.77% 	54.24%>>>>>>>>>>>>Won 7
124 	Rutgers 	49.84% 	47.25% 	36.36% 	49.10% 	50.71% 	56.99% ................... won 4...   
125 	Colorado 	49.72% 	46.48% 	53.57% 	55.87% 	40.82% 	56.69%
126 	W Michigan 	49.36% 	41.43% 	33.33% 	43.26% 	54.39% 	63.01%
127 	N Mex State 	49.22% 	57.75% 	58.62% 	52.69% 	47.24% 	55.97%
128 	U Mass 	48.06% 	50.55% 	52.00% 	48.84% 	47.67% 	49.08%
129 	Air Force 	46.91% 	41.67% 	57.14% 	48.28% 	46.15% 	48.15%
130 	Navy 	43.36% 	38.89% 	25.00% 	32.35% 	48.10% 	49.48%
131 	Army 	42.00%
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 Do you honestly think that if Coach Leach hadn’t passed away , that all 3 of the QBs that transferred, would have ALL stayed .?? That answer is no .. One if not 2 would have prob left. And one went to play for Tarelton State for ****s sake 
And apparently both Locke or Sawyer not only didn’t make a push for the starting job they couldn’t beat out Lovertich for the back up job .. 
So not counting Greek , we basically we traded Sawyer and Locke for Wright who beat Fla and Kentucky  ...
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				That's your own misconceptions.   I didn't complain about Wright coming here.   I stated that this can not be the norm.   A trend.... which is what was being said.
You are right.  He is a 52% passer when you add it all in.  If you want to not add in UGA, that's fine.   That puts him at 55% over the past 2 season.  
Tenn: 53.8
UK: 52.2
SC: 53.3
Wake: 53.3
Either way, you can ignore it all you want.  This is not a trend we want.    Parsons, yes.
			
		 
	 
 What are you taking about?  He is 57.4% for this past season. He is 55.3% for his entire career, counting every single game he threw a pass in at Vandy. I know math is hard but damn what are you looking at. 
What about Georgia?  Count it, I don't care, he only threw 1 pass dumbass.You are going leave off his 62.5% in the win over Florida?  You need to go back over his stats, you are off dingleberry.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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				Do you honestly think that if Coach Leach hadn’t passed away , that all 3 of the QBs that transferred, would have ALL stayed .?? That answer is no .. One if not 2 would have prob left. And one went to play for Tarelton State for ****s sake 
And apparently both Locke or Sawyer not only didn’t make a push for the starting job they couldn’t beat out Lovertich for the back up job .. 
So not counting Greek , we basically we traded Sawyer and Locke for Wright who beat Fla and Kentucky  ...
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Where do you get that I think that?  Greek was going to transfer.  The other 2?  No idea, but there is zero point in talking about it.   Leach did pass away.   We did move away from that system.     
Sawyer beat out Lovertich.   Again.  None of that has anything to do with this.
	
		
			
			
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					01-27-2023, 09:41 PM
				
			
			
				
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				What are you taking about?  He is 57.4% for this past season. He is 55.3% for his entire career, counting every single game he threw a pass in at Vandy. I know math is hard but damn what are you looking at. 
What about Georgia?  Count it, I don't care, he only threw 1 pass dumbass.You are going leave off his 62.5% in the win over Florida?  You need to go back over his stats, you are off dingleberry.
			
		 
	 
 
Like I said.  55% career if you don't add it.   So let's make that easy for us.  Don't count the game.  I don't care.   55%.  We can agree.   See how easy that is.  I'm not going to split hairs.   That can not be the trend.
FL... We are seriously talking FL where he had a QBR of 50.   60% with 108 yards passing?  That's what we want to be the trend?   WRs coming here for that?   come on.  
Neither you nor I want that to be the trend.   We both know that Clark.     The good news is that's not going to be the trend.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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							All we need is whiskey pirate to show up and the thread would be complete lol!
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					01-27-2023, 09:56 PM
				
			
			
				
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				Like I said.  55% career if you don't add it.   So let's make that easy for us.  Don't count the game.  I don't care.   55%.  We can agree.   See how easy that is.  I'm not going to split hairs.   That can not be the trend.
FL... We are seriously talking FL where he had a QBR of 50.   60% with 108 yards passing?  That's what we want to be the trend?   WRs coming here for that?   come on.  
Neither you nor I want that to be the trend.   We both know that Clark.     The good news is that's not going to be the trend.
			
		 
	 
 You still can't add and divide.  He is over 55% for his career EVEN adding Georgia. Count Georgia because I am!!  I counted them all, not trying to fudge a number. I don't think you are you just can't do the math.  He has 333 passing attempts for his career. He has completed 184 passes. Divide 184 by 333 and you get  .553, multiple that by 100 and that makes 55.3%.  See not hard. 
Nobody is claiming he is as accurate as Will but damn dude, of all things to be inaccurately using stats to argue about, a back-up SEC QB with starting experience in the league, ain't an arguing point.  It's a damn fine backup option that late in the portal.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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				All we need is whiskey pirate to show up and the thread would be complete lol!
			
		 
	 
 
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
		
		
		
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
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