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Originally Posted by
MrCoachKlein
Athletes that 'died suddenly' or 'collapsed from heart condition'. Rampant in soccer. Search it on a non censored video hosting site. It'll make you sick
High usage of certain powdery drugs taken through you nose does this also.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Normally I would agree but the vaccine has had young, healthy guys dropping dead. Soccer has had double digit guys die in the last 3 years after having a handfull in the previous 50 years
I'm in!
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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There. Stop being idiotic brain dead vax idiots. There's actual proven medical science explaining to you what happened.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commotio_cordis
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Normally I would agree but the vaccine has had young, healthy guys dropping dead. Soccer has had double digit guys die in the last 3 years after having a handfull in the previous 50 years
Thank you, it pisses me off people are not even willing to have this discussion
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Originally Posted by
Apoplectic
Why is this part of the discussion not allowed?
Exactly
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Originally Posted by
MoreCowbell
Thank you, it pisses me off people are not even willing to have this discussion
We're all willing to have "the discussion." It's just that literally every death announcement is blamed on the vaccine. Not exaggerating. Every single Tweet about someone who has died, regardless of their age, conditions, cause of death, or even vaccination status is followed up by replies blaming the vaccine. Leach, Sam Westmoreland, Queen Elizabeth, everyone. I just went to Twitter and saw a NYT times from a singer named Gangsta Boo who died today and guess what clowns are blaming it on despite no information. It's just stupid. Apparently nobody who died in the last 2 years would have died without that vaccine (including people who didn't get it in the first place).
I remember in particular one exchange here (or maybe SPS) where two people said they had elderly relatives die and were blaming it on the COVID vaccine. One died the next day, and the other died months later. Despite the fact that their stories were totally different, they just felt vindicated by someone else having the "same experience" and it's like, really? The same experience?
Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? Maybe the wolf will show up one day, but we've already started tuning the morons out.
Last edited by Quaoarsking; 01-03-2023 at 01:37 AM.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Soccer has had double digit guys die in the last 3 years after having a handfull in the previous 50 years
You really just sheepishly believe something you read on the Internet without demanding the see the actual data behind it?
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Last edited by Tater; 01-03-2023 at 03:24 AM.
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This thread is glorious....
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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Well ... I dunno if Damar's case is vax related but I'll say this.
I've known one person who has died from Covid (56 years old).
My entire life (59 years) I've known 3 people I can think of who have died of heart attacks. I think I've known of one in their 70's who had a stroke.
Since mid-2021 I've personally known 3 people in their 50's who have died of heart attacks, one a woman (women don't generally die of heart attacks). One drove himself to the hospital and made it, but they couldn't keep him alive (that's pretty rare). I've also known 2 guys in their 50's who have had massive strokes and are completely debilitated now. I have a friend who knows a 60 year old woman who died of a heart attack. The 60 year old has a 40 year old daughter who also had a heart attack, but survived.
I also have a friend that didn't want to get the vax but was made to by the hospital where she worked. She took the D-Dimer test for blood clot susceptibility prior to taking the vax, then again after 2 doses of Moderna. Her likelihood for blood clots increased after the 2 doses.
I've seen a lot of old, fat coaches (as y'all have too). How many die of heart attacks while they're still coaching. I can't think of one. Bear did (he smoked) but after he retired.
As an aside, my brother (61) was healthy as a horse. After 2 doses of Moderna in April '21, in July '21 he got tongue cancer with 95% survival rate. He had quit smoking and drinking many years before and was very healthy before then. We buried him this past July.
I also know a couple or so folks that seem to be sick with flu like symptoms quite often since they have been vaxxed/boosted/etc. (sorta like Leach seemed this past year). One just got run down really bad, was complaining on FB for 2 or 3 weeks. Thought she had the flu (had tested negative for Covid). Went to visit over holidays and several people she was around got sick and then tested positive for Covid.
Oh .. and now we have a new thing called Sudden Adult Death Syndrome, sorta like SIDS I guess. Which means they don't know HITF someone died. Happening with younger adults a decent amount too.
So ... I dunno if the vax is causing deaths or not but ... some things just ain't adding up and 2+2 ain't equaling 4 about what the "science" and our Big Pharma Lords are telling us about the vax.
I also know that I didn't take it and I never will, regardless of mandates or laws.
ETA: I'm not gonna really debate with folks about this, just telling folks what I've noticed and what some of my observations have been. Folks are currently free to make their own choices for the most part, except when employers mandate it I guess.
Last edited by dawgday166; 01-03-2023 at 03:10 AM.
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Anecdotes are not research. Hope the young man can make it
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Originally Posted by
Tater
This seems plausible given the timing of his collapse. I don't think this is something like HOCM. I'm pretty sure all NFL players are screened for that and many other things.
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Originally Posted by
parabrave
High usage of certain powdery drugs taken through you nose does this also.
If you're suggesting this young man was snorting cocaine and this happened you're different. The NFL test more second to track and field.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
My entire life (59 years) I've known 3 people I can think of who have died of heart attacks. I think I've known of one in their 70's who had a stroke.
There are probably more that you're forgetting because you weren't looking for them and committing them to memory like you are now.
Also, as we age are more likely to have peers start dying than when we were younger, so even if you do remember everything perfectly it may just be that.
Oh .. and now we have a new thing called Sudden Adult Death Syndrome, sorta like SIDS I guess. Which means they don't know HITF someone died. Happening with younger adults a decent amount too.
SADS actually stands for "sudden arrythmtic death syndrome" and is not new at all. Whoever told you otherwise scammed you. The internet is full of bad actors trying to scare people with fake news.
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Originally Posted by
chef dixon
This seems plausible given the timing of his collapse. I don't think this is something like HOCM. I'm pretty sure all NFL players are screened for that and many other things.
Anyone remember this CC ever happening before in pro or college where 13 year boys with under-developed chest cavalries and muscles don?t play?
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Originally Posted by
Apoplectic
Why is this part of the discussion not allowed?

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Normally I would agree but the vaccine has had young, healthy guys dropping dead. Soccer has had double digit guys die in the last 3 years after having a handfull in the previous 50 years
Because it has nothing to do with this guy's condition. Billions upon billions of doses given, hundreds of thousands of top of the world athletes..... nothing. You could just as easily say that Covid itself is causing issues due to the way it attacks lung and heart tissue.
Let's leave the science to the scientist. Shit I don't even trust C34 for coffee recommendations. Why the hell would anyone trust him with literally anything else?
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Originally Posted by
MoreCowbell
Thank you, it pisses me off people are not even willing to have this discussion
Well, there's so many different variables that would have to be accounted for (Vax or not, how many, covid infection or not, how severe, pre-existing conditions, drug use, family history, etc) that this could only ever be assessed by a giant govt study.....that you wouldn't trust anyway. So what's the point of the discussion?
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Well ... I dunno if Damar's case is vax related but I'll say this.
I've known one person who has died from Covid (56 years old).
My entire life (59 years) I've known 3 people I can think of who have died of heart attacks. I think I've known of one in their 70's who had a stroke.
Since mid-2021 I've personally known 3 people in their 50's who have died of heart attacks, one a woman (women don't generally die of heart attacks). One drove himself to the hospital and made it, but they couldn't keep him alive (that's pretty rare). I've also known 2 guys in their 50's who have had massive strokes and are completely debilitated now. I have a friend who knows a 60 year old woman who died of a heart attack. The 60 year old has a 40 year old daughter who also had a heart attack, but survived.
I also have a friend that didn't want to get the vax but was made to by the hospital where she worked. She took the D-Dimer test for blood clot susceptibility prior to taking the vax, then again after 2 doses of Moderna. Her likelihood for blood clots increased after the 2 doses.
I've seen a lot of old, fat coaches (as y'all have too). How many die of heart attacks while they're still coaching. I can't think of one. Bear did (he smoked) but after he retired.
As an aside, my brother (61) was healthy as a horse. After 2 doses of Moderna in April '21, in July '21 he got tongue cancer with 95% survival rate. He had quit smoking and drinking many years before and was very healthy before then. We buried him this past July.
I also know a couple or so folks that seem to be sick with flu like symptoms quite often since they have been vaxxed/boosted/etc. (sorta like Leach seemed this past year). One just got run down really bad, was complaining on FB for 2 or 3 weeks. Thought she had the flu (had tested negative for Covid). Went to visit over holidays and several people she was around got sick and then tested positive for Covid.
Oh .. and now we have a new thing called Sudden Adult Death Syndrome, sorta like SIDS I guess. Which means they don't know HITF someone died. Happening with younger adults a decent amount too.
So ... I dunno if the vax is causing deaths or not but ... some things just ain't adding up and 2+2 ain't equaling 4 about what the "science" and our Big Pharma Lords are telling us about the vax.
I also know that I didn't take it and I never will, regardless of mandates or laws.
ETA: I'm not gonna really debate with folks about this, just telling folks what I've noticed and what some of my observations have been. Folks are currently free to make their own choices for the most part, except when employers mandate it I guess.
You led a very fortunate life for a long time. I don't really believe you knew that few people who died from the things you mentioned prior to COVID.
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Originally Posted by
Apoplectic
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