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When are we supposed to get left behind because of NIL deals
This class seems as good or better than most classes we've had.
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I think you?re mistaken. We are still in the same ranking area (18-25) but the distance between the top 10 and us is growing. With NIL we will probably never get a 5 star and our 4 star?s are fewer. We live on 3 star players now.
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Originally Posted by
msudawglb
I think you?re mistaken. We are still in the same ranking area (18-25) but the distance between the top 10 and us is growing. With NIL we will probably never get a 5 star and our 4 star?s are fewer. We live on 3 star players now.
It'll balance out in the end. Not all of those 4/5* players will be able to get on the field the way they're hoarding talent, and those guys will need a place like State to land.
WHY IS EVERYONE YELLING?!?
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As Coach Leach stated, this current situation is not sustainable.
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Originally Posted by
phatdog
This class seems as good or better than most classes we've had.
This class is the same as always. 20-25 very respectable class but with little star power. We wanted Dowdell bad but could not compete with Oregon NIL money. Just like pre NIL, it is just legal to do it now.
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
This class is the same as always. 20-25 very respectable class but with little star power. We wanted Dowdell bad but could not compete with Oregon NIL money. Just like pre NIL, it is just legal to do it now.
If we had offered Dowdell earlier int the process we would have had Dowdell.
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
This class is the same as always. 20-25 very respectable class but with little star power. We wanted Dowdell bad but could not compete with Oregon NIL money. Just like pre NIL, it is just legal to do it now.
Heard he grew up a State fan and a person no longer on staff blew his recruitment, but sure Nike NIL $ from Phil Knight and Oregon makes it harder to compete. OM also really tried to flip him. Long way from home in Oregon. Maybe we get another shot in the portal in the near future. Hail State!
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5 stars have always been too expensive for us. Nothing has changed. Rich keep getting richer.
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Originally Posted by
msudawglb
I think you?re mistaken. We are still in the same ranking area (18-25) but the distance between the top 10 and us is growing. With NIL we will probably never get a 5 star and our 4 star?s are fewer. We live on 3 star players now.
We've always lived on 3 stars. How is the gap growing 1-10? Is the same as its always been. You also have to think logically. There is no way we're a 3 star team rated #25. Mississippi high school players aren't rated properly. If the coaches are offering and signing them I trust their evaluation.
Last edited by bulldawg28; 12-23-2022 at 07:48 AM.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
We've always lived in 3 stars. How is the gap growing 1-10? Is the same as its always been. You also have to think logically. There is no way we're a 3 star team rated #25. Mississippi high school players aren't rated properly. If the coaches are offering and signing them I trust their evaluation.
Yep, it’s hard to rate players properly, generally Texas hs players way over rated & Mississippi players underrated.
There will always be the same inventory of players looking for pt anyway.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
We've always lived in 3 stars. How is the gap growing 1-10? Is the same as its always been. You also have to think logically. There is no way we're a 3 star team rated #25. Mississippi high school players aren't rated properly. If the coaches are offering and signing them I trust their evaluation.
I think you have to look at the scoring. How many of our 3 stars are between 88 and 89.9? Those are high 3 stars.
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A college fb coach once told me there should be no such thing as a four star…if you’re not a five you’re a three.
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Originally Posted by
CaptainObvious
I think you have to look at the scoring. How many of our 3 stars are between 88 and 89.9? Those are high 3 stars.
If these players were in any other state they'd be 4 stars. I judge it by on the field. I just reiterate 3 stars are not ranked in the top #25.
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It’s also going to be painful to see us lose baseball players to bigger schools because of NIL. We will still get our share of good ones b/c money isn’t as big of an issue with baseball families, but going head to head with lsu, ark, Tenn, and apparently florida for players will be harder.
Florida fans don’t really support baseball like you would think, but someone with over there with money cares enough to apparently outbid lsu for usm’s no. 2 player.
If you notice, I think we got some good players in the portal, but I don’t think we were in a bidding war for any of them.
NIL is a scourge.
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Originally Posted by
msudawglb
I think you?re mistaken. We are still in the same ranking area (18-25) but the distance between the top 10 and us is growing. With NIL we will probably never get a 5 star and our 4 star?s are fewer. We live on 3 star players now.
We've always lived on 3 stars and Juco. We put 2 star guys in the NFL. MSU will continue as always here.
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Originally Posted by
Schultzy
A college fb coach once told me there should be no such thing as a four star…if you’re not a five you’re a three.
Ha yeah and ole Chris Jones that low skill 2 star guy, he did OK.
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Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
As Coach Leach stated, this current situation is not sustainable.
No it is not. Just like a housing bubble or any other. Only so much money to go around and there are more and more good athletes in the field too. Way more than it was 40 years ago.
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We just had our top WR purchased by GA. We won't go steal a big time player from a blue blood. It's making us fall further behind the better teams. They'll now come take our top players like we take MTSUs. I see no way we will ever make the playoffs (even the expanded version). We'll be in that 15-25 range a good bit, but this is a new age. Bowl games are going to be irrelevant. The money will be in the playoffs in the future.
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
No it is not. Just like a housing bubble or any other. Only so much money to go around and there are more and more good athletes in the field too. Way more than it was 40 years ago.
Going to be like the Portal in a few years/ One analyst said the other day. When half these kids start understanding that just because you leave for "greener" pastures doesn't mean that you will get a better offer and you run the risk of not only losing you scholarship but being left totally in the cold.
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