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Leach always had a great quote about RaRa, and Malik for that matter. "He's occasionally great, but we need him to be consistently good." Makai Polk was the example of consistently good
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Originally Posted by
coachnorm
How can a receiver stay motivated when he does things right and gets open or positioned to win contested catches and the quarterback throws swing passes and check downs? RaRa has good production in spite of an unconfident and weak armed quarterback?
Probably the same way a receiver stays motivated in an offense where they have to block for the running back on running plays all the time?
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Probably the same way a receiver stays motivated in an offense where they have to block for the running back on running plays all the time?
Yep.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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Originally Posted by
BayouDawg
We will have to agree to disagree here. Polk never came off the field because he consistently did his job. Rara could have had the same PT this year if he consistently did his job in games and practice. The coaches werent picking on him.
Outside of Fred Ross, I just do not see any receiver from Mississippi State generate more pass reception production than RaRa in the past 15 years since I befriended Mjoelner and became a supporter of the Dawgs. The name of the game is production as a player and not a scheme participant. If you look at a football game as a war, you simply need the best killers with attitude on the front line whether they are good workers and good team mates. I bet the Alamo was filled with some of the biggest assholes in history but they were good at what they did? I believe that fellow elitedoggers are probably on point but I still believe that RaRa has done something not seen in a long time at MSU and that is produce on the long ball, sacrifice himself over the middle, and win the contested catches when thrown to. This is something seen from opponents that have beaten us in the past. Those receivers were possible assholes with bad attitudes: good Alamo material?
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Originally Posted by
coachnorm
Outside of Fred Ross, I just do not see any receiver from Mississippi State generate more pass reception production than RaRa in the past 15 years since I befriended Mjoelner and became a supporter of the Dawgs. The name of the game is production as a player and not a scheme participant. If you look at a football game as a war, you simply need the best killers with attitude on the front line whether they are good workers and good team mates. I bet the Alamo was filled with some of the biggest assholes in history but they were good at what they did? I believe that fellow elitedoggers are probably on point but I still believe that RaRa has done something not seen in a long time at MSU and that is produce on the long ball, sacrifice himself over the middle, and win the contested catches when thrown to. This is something seen from opponents that have beaten us in the past. Those receivers were possible assholes with bad attitudes: good Alamo material?
Polk
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Originally Posted by
coachnorm
Outside of Fred Ross, I just do not see any receiver from Mississippi State generate more pass reception production than RaRa in the past 15 years since I befriended Mjoelner and became a supporter of the Dawgs. The name of the game is production as a player and not a scheme participant. If you look at a football game as a war, you simply need the best killers with attitude on the front line whether they are good workers and good team mates. I bet the Alamo was filled with some of the biggest assholes in history but they were good at what they did? I believe that fellow elitedoggers are probably on point but I still believe that RaRa has done something not seen in a long time at MSU and that is produce on the long ball, sacrifice himself over the middle, and win the contested catches when thrown to. This is something seen from opponents that have beaten us in the past. Those receivers were possible assholes with bad attitudes: good Alamo material?
Polk, Bear Wilson and Bumphis all had exponentially better production than Rara. It's not even close.
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Originally Posted by
MrCoachKlein
Polk
Rufus, Ducking, Tulu, Heath and Walley and Austin last yr
Like Leach said this year we have 10 of the same level wr. No one rose above the rest like Polk did last year.
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Originally Posted by
MrCoachKlein
Rufus, Ducking, Tulu, Heath and Walley and Austin last yr
Like Leach said this year we have 10 of the same level wr. No one rose above the rest like Polk did last year.
No
Rara has the largest per catch average of any WR under Leach. He's a good WR- bottom line. Losing him sux and does hurt our team slightly. Georgia wanting him says all you need to say. People seem to leave out he is still young- so he hasnt even reached his ceiling yet. Averaging 14.0 per catch in the Airbone is pretty amazing to be honest.
Are we still ok at WR? Absolutely. But losing him hurts a little. Anybody saying different is lying or a moron
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
No
Rara has the largest per catch average of any WR under Leach. He's a good WR- bottom line. Losing him sux and does hurt our team slightly. Georgia wanting him says all you need to say. People seem to leave out he is still young- so he hasnt even reached his ceiling yet. Averaging 14.0 per catch in the Airbone is pretty amazing to be honest.
Are we still ok at WR? Absolutely. But losing him hurts a little. Anybody saying different is lying or a moron
Truth, he was the go to and definitely a playmaker.
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He didn?t want to play in an offense that he couldn?t be the main guy. He didn?t separate himself with consistency above the others.
Malik Heath went to Ole Miss and became the go to guy against the soft part of their schedule.
I?m sure RARA thinks he can do the same.
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Originally Posted by
CaptainObvious
He didn?t want to play in an offense that he couldn?t be the main guy. He didn?t separate himself with consistency above the others.
Malik Heath went to Ole Miss and became the go to guy against the soft part of their schedule.
I?m sure RARA thinks he can do the same.
A championship blueprint would have #0 and#4 on the field about 80% of the time for deep threat content. Sharing too much time with other receivers simply will stunt the offensive production and evolve to lost games. How many quality teams at any level do this type of non sense? High Schools, Colleges, and NFL keep their deep threats i.e. keeping a knife at the throat of the defense 48 or 60 minute game. The name of the game is the long ball, taking huge hits and holding on, and contested catches. Everything else might amount to lesser significance in the upper tier of college football. Even Michigan has learned this and have changed from its garbage pass philosophy? I have not seen any MSU WR do it better than RaRa since becoming a Dawg supporter. Some do 2 of 3, but not 3 of 3 tasks I have stated. BTW, any receiver that does not think he should be the man should not be recruited.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Truth, he was the go to and definitely a playmaker.
I bet we never miss him.
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Originally Posted by
coachnorm
Outside of Fred Ross, I just do not see any receiver from Mississippi State generate more pass reception production than RaRa in the past 15 years since I befriended Mjoelner and became a supporter of the Dawgs. The name of the game is production as a player and not a scheme participant. If you look at a football game as a war, you simply need the best killers with attitude on the front line whether they are good workers and good team mates. I bet the Alamo was filled with some of the biggest assholes in history but they were good at what they did? I believe that fellow elitedoggers are probably on point but I still believe that RaRa has done something not seen in a long time at MSU and that is produce on the long ball, sacrifice himself over the middle, and win the contested catches when thrown to. This is something seen from opponents that have beaten us in the past. Those receivers were possible assholes with bad attitudes: good Alamo material?
Lololol, Bumphis, Polk, and Bear all produced way more than Rara did.
"We will have no problem in handling Kentucky."-Turfdawg67. MSU suffered a 27-17 defeat in 2022 with 225 yards in total offense.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
No
Rara has the largest per catch average of any WR under Leach. He's a good WR- bottom line. Losing him sux and does hurt our team slightly. Georgia wanting him says all you need to say. People seem to leave out he is still young- so he hasnt even reached his ceiling yet. Averaging 14.0 per catch in the Airbone is pretty amazing to be honest.
Are we still ok at WR? Absolutely. But losing him hurts a little. Anybody saying different is lying or a moron
Pretty much where I am.
I will say RaRa's production didn't match his potential, but that's common with young guys.
I'll also say keeping Zavion will help replace that potential, because I think Zavion's potential is as high or higher than RaRa's.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
No
Rara has the largest per catch average of any WR under Leach. He's a good WR- bottom line. Losing him sux and does hurt our team slightly. Georgia wanting him says all you need to say. People seem to leave out he is still young- so he hasnt even reached his ceiling yet. Averaging 14.0 per catch in the Airbone is pretty amazing to be honest.
Are we still ok at WR? Absolutely. But losing him hurts a little. Anybody saying different is lying or a moron
Accurate assessment. Losing him isn't the end of the world but it definitley hurts a little
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Originally Posted by
msu15
Lololol, Bumphis, Polk, and Bear all produced way more than Rara did.
Hell we have had several receivers just in recent memory in run oriented offenses produced way more than RaRa did lol. Jayden Walley even did in his true freshman year. Add Donald Gray, Ross, Jameon Lewis, Jameyel Smith, Tony Burks & on and on and on. And RaRa played in the air raid & could never separate himself from 10 other receivers on the roster. He's talented but easily replaceable. Everyone saying otherwise knows this & are likely just wanting to argue lol.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Statistically he was basically the same guy as Caleb Ducking. RaRa had a lot of touchdowns- but less than 500 yards receiving.
Both can be true- RaRa was a loss but he is also replaceable.
RaRa's current production is not a big loss and is easily replaceable. But he's a young guy and had a lot of upside. Obvious upside if UGA is willing to pay him despite not doing that much statistically. If he reaches his potential, then that is a big loss. We'll see if he does or not.
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Originally Posted by
Leroy Jenkins
Yep.

Originally Posted by
Johnson85
RaRa's current production is not a big loss and is easily replaceable. But he's a young guy and had a lot of upside. Obvious upside if UGA is willing to pay him despite not doing that much statistically. If he reaches his potential, then that is a big loss. We'll see if he does or not.
To be fair this exact thing can be said about 4-5 other receivers currently on the roster with a good group coming in. Don't be shocked if Creed has a really really good freshman year.
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Originally Posted by
msu15
Lololol, Bumphis, Polk, and Bear all produced way more than Rara did.
Bumphis had 1 season- his Sr season- better than RaRa's Soph season. Wilson's Soph season was almost identical to RaRa's.
The comparision to Ducking kinda shows what we are talking about. They had very similar stats except that RaRa had 150 more yards. He's more of the big play guy. His over 14 yards per catch proves it
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Bumphis had 1 season- his Sr season- better than RaRa's Soph season. Wilson's Soph season was almost identical to RaRa's.
The comparision to Ducking kinda shows what we are talking about. They had very similar stats except that RaRa had 150 more yards. He's more of the big play guy. His over 14 yards per catch proves it
Arkansas, Kentucky, Georgia & Ole Miss games COMBINED..
4 receptions, 74 yards & 1 TD.
He literally completely disappeared in half of our conference games. 3 of those teams had bad secondaries. This is playing in an air raid system where we throw the ball a gazillion times per game.
We will not miss RaRa for even one second. Good player who will be very easily replaced in this offense. Good luck to him wherever he lands.
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