Who should be our OC?

[msstate7]

Surely an OC with any track record isn't gonna come when his whole offensive sTaff is already set

[Really Clark?]

Surely an OC with any track record isn't gonna come when his whole offensive sTaff is already set

When has an assistant coach selected the entire staff of his side of the ball? At very most you hear of a coordinator bringing 1 coach he would like to have with him. The HC makes the staffing decisions on both sides of the ball.

[msstate7]

When has an assistant coach selected the entire staff of his side of the ball? At very most you hear of a coordinator bringing 1 coach he would like to have with him. The HC makes the staffing decisions on both sides of the ball.

I would think they have some say so though. Maybe I'm misremembering

[TheLostDawg]

So leach was
HC,OC, and qb coach

So we have to find a coach that runs, at least some sort, the air raid and can coach qb
To have one with experience at coaching duties is a priority. Otherwise like someone mentioned we're going to have a lot of inexperience when it comes to play calling.
I feel like this staff is going to have a short leash due to how quickly this was done. The next hire is critical.

[TheLostDawg]

Hughes has HC experience and has been at state a long time. Arnett has someone to lean on. However we all know TH isn't going to be calling plays, but he can be a mentor of sorts.

[Really Clark?]

I would think they have some say so though. Maybe I'm misremembering

I mean I'm sure they have some input to fill a spot if asked but if the HC already has a staff in place that he wants, the coordinator will work with those coaches. He won't demand bring his own entire staff. And you really can't, if it becomes a bad marriage you could have divided loyalties among the staff.

[memsu06]

Leach tried to bring Long on as our DC when he was hired. And Long said no because he wanted to stay out west. I'd guess that it's very unlikely that has changed in three years.

Leach was looking for a defense that gave him the most trouble on offense. He wanted to hire Long, but Long turned it down but told him he needed to contact Zach. Zach had already been hired by Syracuse, but Leach convinced him to come to MSU. Syracuse went on to hire another DC from the Long coaching tree.

Leach knew running an unconventional defense would give him another edge. Teams now had to prepare for both our offense and defense.

Just another example of what hiring Leach did for MSU.

I really wish we had hired him after Mullen. Hell, we may have had Gardner Minshew as our QB then.

Zach with our 2018 defense would have been something to see.

[HoopsDawg]

Ok which one is leaving?? You tell me ...

If Spurrier gets passed over for OC, he would probably leave. I would rather have an OC and a DC than 2 WR coaches.

[msu15]

Leach was looking for a defense that gave him the most trouble on offense. He wanted to hire Long, but Long turned it down but told him he needed to contact Zach. Zach had already been hired by Syracuse, but Leach convinced him to come to MSU. Syracuse went on to hire another DC from the Long coaching tree.

Leach knew running an unconventional defense would give him another edge. Teams now had to prepare for both our offense and defense.

Just another example of what hiring Leach did for MSU.

I really wish we had hired him after Mullen. Hell, we may have had Gardner Minshew as our QB then.

Zach with our 2018 defense would have been something to see.

There are about 200 guys that would've been a better(and realistic I might add) hire than Moorhead was for that 2018 team. Cohen dropped the ball, is what it is.

[trojandawg]

If you want the offense to evolve I would bring in one of those guys from the outside but they have been around the offense and know it. They can evolve it.

Spurrier junior been around awhile but never been offered a big head coach job. Given his pedigree I find that strange.

Harrell is a young guy And knows qbs. He coached mason fine along with Littrell. Littrell is a running back guy though so you lose the running backs coach if he comes on. But he has that head coach experience. Hatcher brings both qb coach experience and hc experience. But it recent times his qb pedigree is not as high as Harrell or Littrell. I think that's who we need to focus on. Who has the best qb pedigree now because we don't have leach anymore to whisper to them.

[trojandawg]

Exactly. Need someone with qb and play calling experience.

[Cowbell]

It will be interesting to see if the new OC, whoever it is implements a te or any other position. I hope so but...

I sure hope so

[Dawgface]

I think Spurrier jr will be disappointed and probably leave if he doesn't get the OC position. Go to the 3:55 sec mark of the below video. From an interview earlier this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBa...nnel=MattWyatt

[BrunswickDawg]

Chris Hatcher isn't coming here to be OC - he's a sitting HC at a G5. If we aren't going in-house then we need Harrell or Littrel

[Hot Rock]

Let's get this done after signing day and the bowl game. OC hire can wait.

If the guy you want is on staff, let him game plan and play call during the bowl game. You will have just a little bit more information in order to make your decision.

What's the hurry on it? You have the majority of the Offensive recruiting in place, QB, OL, RB and even some WR's. Sure, we might could get another key player or two but getting the right OC in place is way more important.

[Hot Rock]

Let's get this done after signing day and the bowl game. OC hire can wait.

If the guy you want is on staff, let him game plan and play call during the bowl game. You will have just a little bit more information in order to make your decision.

What's the hurry on it? You have the majority of the Offensive recruiting in place, QB, OL, RB and even some WR's. Sure, we might could get another key player or two but getting the right OC in place is way more important.

sorry, meant to post to OP

[CoachT14]

Chris Hatcher isn't coming here to be OC - he's a sitting HC at a G5. If we aren't going in-house then we need Harrell or Littrel

He's an FCS head coach, there have been several in the past few years who have made that same transition. If he has a want to coach in Division 1, this is one of his better routes.

[CoachT14]

Surely an OC with any track record isn't gonna come when his whole offensive sTaff is already set

What OC wouldn't want to come and call their own plays without Head Coach oversight?

I'm not saying Arnett will do that. But Leach let him do it, so it's not far fetched to think he would do the same for OC.

[Desoto1967]

Probably already on staff

[CoachT14]

Probably already on staff

First time HC, first time OC, first time DC.

That's not worrisome at all.