Look, Ray could have played Daniels this year and won 6-8 SEC games

[shannondawg]

Coach said it was all on Rick Ray next year, no Stansbury bashing, I believe him, why would he say that if he didn't mean it. Goodness, give the man some credit....I assume he means right after we lose er play our games at the SEC tourney. Right Coach?

He might have to go for therapy, but what they heck?

I have to admit, I am not much for message boards except to defend my friends so probably won't be hearing too much from me.

[drunkernhelldawg]

We should have won the South Carolina game with the players we have. We gave up a lot of points in that game with plain old sloppy play. The RAT in the house was a big factor, of course, but if we score or at least have decent possessions following the 3's, then the effect is not so devastating.

[BiscuitEater]

We would have been a much better team with Daniels and Ware inside during SEC play- with Borchert coming off the bench.

"Why" didn't Ray play him so that ...

1) He could find out 'if' Daniels is able to be a 'Ray team' player 'cause we already know he was not willing to do what it took to pass ONE single math class when it was needed. Instead, Daniels is still an unknown.
2) Ray, instead of regressing in year two, would have showed some improvement and at least had some momentum headed into recruiting and year three.
3) Now, without 'significant' improvement, we have a 'lame duck' that won't get a year four.

[Coach34]

"Why" didn't Ray play him so that ...
3) Now, without 'significant' improvement, we have a 'lame duck' that won't get a year four.

He's gonna get 4 years

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

"Why" didn't Ray play him so that ...

1) He could find out 'if' Daniels is able to be a 'Ray team' player 'cause we already know he was not willing to do what it took to pass ONE single math class when it was needed. Instead, Daniels is still an unknown.
2) Ray, instead of regressing in year two, would have showed some improvement and at least had some momentum headed into recruiting and year three.
3) Now, without 'significant' improvement, we have a 'lame duck' that won't get a year four.

Because playing him for half of this season would leave us with a guy who runs out of eligibility halfway through the 2015-2016 season - playing him this season would have been short-sighted enough fro me to want to go ahead and fire Ray on the theory that he can't see the forest for the trees. Anyone who suggests that Daniels should have played this year isn't thinking it through clearly.

[JOHNHEVESYMADE]

The fact that he isn't feeling any pressure to win amazes me. He is making 1 million dollars a year.

[smootness]

The fact that he isn't feeling any pressure to win amazes me. He is making 1 million dollars a year.

I don't even know what this means.

[smootness]

"Why" didn't Ray play him so that ...

1) He could find out 'if' Daniels is able to be a 'Ray team' player 'cause we already know he was not willing to do what it took to pass ONE single math class when it was needed. Instead, Daniels is still an unknown.
2) Ray, instead of regressing in year two, would have showed some improvement and at least had some momentum headed into recruiting and year three.
3) Now, without 'significant' improvement, we have a 'lame duck' that won't get a year four.

Using the argument that Daniels should have played this year against Ray is insane. There's no coach in the country who would have played him for half this year knowing he would only have him for the first half of 2015-2016.

And claiming that Daniels was 'not willing to do what it took' in regard to passing a class is equally insane.

[Saltydog]

3's we're not gonna win many that many more games next year, even with the bigger guys coming in. Dunlap is supposedly a shooter but he's only 6'1" and we need more than one shooter, preferrably someone at the 3 that can knock down some outside shots.

[Sandman14]

We would have been a much better team with Daniels and Ware inside during SEC play- with Borchert coming off the bench. Roq could have played the 3 some- and we could have actually had a big line-up out there in some games to match other teams. But Ray didnt do that- why?

Because what is best for the long term health of the program- win 3-4 more games this season? Or have Daniels and Ware playing together for the next 2 full seasons? Program building is never easy. But he made the right decision and we'll start seeing the benefits next year

2015 is on Ray and we'll see if he delivers

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHHA! GOOD ONE! We are building for the future! taking our lumps now instead of later, I gotcha!

[Sandman14]

He's gonna get 4 years

He's gonna get 4 because this is Mississippi State. It's the same reason we should never have fired his predecessor. Some of you said that others of us were "settling." Well, now I say to you that we currently are "settling." Why should we have to settle for being the worst team in the SEC for 4 straight years without making a move? Don't you have any self-respect? Any coach, and I mean ANY coach, should have been able to get out of the cellar in two years in this horrid division.

Just because we are MSU doesn't mean that you guys have to settle for being the worst program of all time in SEC basketball. You can have a little dignity and pull the plug after two years and an awful outlook. The Browns fired Chud as a head coach after 1 year wasn't it? Why does MSU have to watch the program literally almost have to disband because of the epic terribleness before a move is made?

[Sandman14]

No one even comes to the games anymore. It's like a ghost town. This is 10 times as bad as it ever was for Stands. At least under Stands, people cared. Now no one gives a flip. Most people don't even check the box scores anymore or have any idea what our record is or who we play next. It's just a dead program.

[Sandman14]

Can anyone name 4 players on this team? Sword...Fred Thomas....isn't there someone named Ware? That's all for me. Don't know what any of them look like except flat top Fred. Why would I care about one of the worst teams in SEC history led by the worst coach in the SEC that gets ripped by 20 plus every single game.

[Dawg61]

He's gonna get 4 because this is Mississippi State. It's the same reason we should never have fired his predecessor. Some of you said that others of us were "settling." Well, now I say to you that we currently are "settling." Why should we have to settle for being the worst team in the SEC for 4 straight years without making a move? Don't you have any self-respect? Any coach, and I mean ANY coach, should have been able to get out of the cellar in two years in this horrid division.

Just because we are MSU doesn't mean that you guys have to settle for being the worst program of all time in SEC basketball. You can have a little dignity and pull the plug after two years and an awful outlook. The Browns fired Chud as a head coach after 1 year wasn't it? Why does MSU have to watch the program literally almost have to disband because of the epic terribleness before a move is made?

JohnRick RayCohen will get his four years cause he was the National Championship runner up in baseball last year. That's worth at least 4 years of the worst basketball you'll ever see.

[TheRef]

Can anyone name 4 players on this team? Sword...Fred Thomas....isn't there someone named Ware? That's all for me. Don't know what any of them look like except flat top Fred. Why would I care about one of the worst teams in SEC history led by the worst coach in the SEC that gets ripped by 20 plus every single game.

Roq, ware, thomas, bloodman, chicken, ready, cunningham, borchert..then again, I'm a basketball fan at heart.

[Sandman14]

hilarious... John "Rick Ray" Cohen...I love it.

But shouldn't it be Rick "John Cohen" Ray?

[Sandman14]

Roq, ware, thomas, bloodman, chicken, ready, cunningham, borchert..then again, I'm a basketball fan at heart.

you and the other 54 folks need to keep that gym rocking. I honestly couldn't care less. MSU basketball is tantamount to MSU softball, and has been for the last 2 years, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. I'll check back in when we start winning 20 games a year again (but remember guys, 20 wins doesn't mean anything anymore...how much does 13 wins mean then??).

[engie]

Can anyone name 4 players on this team? Sword...Fred Thomas....isn't there someone named Ware? That's all for me. Don't know what any of them look like except flat top Fred. Why would I care about one of the worst teams in SEC history led by the worst coach in the SEC that gets ripped by 20 plus every single game.

Quoted proof you should be sitting out this discussion.

Bloodman, Ready
Sword, Davis
Thomas
Borchert, Roquez
Ware

Walk-ons: Moore, Cunningham, De'Runnya, adding Staley next year.

Redshirts: Daniels, NDoye -- giving us a 2nd 5 and a 2nd 4 next year. Iincoming Houston gives us a 2nd 3, while Black gives us a 3rd 4, and Dunlap gives us a 3rd 2.

Incoming: Houston, Black, Dunlap -- and likely one more coming to fill us to 13 players.

[engie]

you and the other 54 folks need to keep that gym rocking. I honestly couldn't care less. MSU basketball is tantamount to MSU softball, and has been for the last 2 years, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. I'll check back in when we start winning 20 games a year again (but remember guys, 20 wins doesn't mean anything anymore...how much does 13 wins mean then??).

So, you are sitting it out from this point forward then? Good.

[TheRef]

you and the other 54 folks need to keep that gym rocking. I honestly couldn't care less. MSU basketball is tantamount to MSU softball, and has been for the last 2 years, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. I'll check back in when we start winning 20 games a year again (but remember guys, 20 wins doesn't mean anything anymore...how much does 13 wins mean then??).

I will gladly do so. I'm sorry you could care less about a MSU sport. But hey, to each their own, right? You asked for someone to name more than 4 players on the team, I named 8 so I doubled your challenge. Yeah, it's tough to watch right now. There is no doubt about that. Do I get frustrated? Yes, what fan wouldn't get frustrated. Ray in his press conference today said that he is guaranteeing a full roster next year and that the lack of depth inside was what killed us. I can't argue with that. Next year is NIT or bust for me. I haven't called for RR's head yet this season, but if we don't get NIT next year I will call for his head and will lead the charge on it, if necessary. So I hope and pray I don't have to call for his head next season because that means that the hire was a failure. And don't you start saying "He's already a failure," or "This was the worst hire in MSU history," because we don't know that yet. I've said my peace, I'm done.