Quote Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg View Post
Again, I like Jackie, but we had a losing record 6 of his 13 years. This all started not to downplay Jackie, just to say that when you consider his whole tenure I don't think what he did here is some unattainable level of success, which was the implication of the other poster. That's specifically what I was addressing.
That is fine but you keep saying I or others said he achieved some unattainable level of success. That was never said. 3 of JWS losing years were the last 3. I can't help any MSU fan who don't realize what JWS did at MSU. Even Dan credited JWS for setting the standard at MSU when he took the job.

JWS inherited a mess and had us winning immediately similar to Dan. That is how you know you got a great coach. JWS had a lot going on the last few years none of which were shopping for another job. Jackie was true maroon and was a winner, plain and simple.