Here is what needs to bother you about Baseball recruiting

[Coach34]

The State way would be starting a fund like GoFundMe where State grads would donate $10, $20, $50 bucks. The State family is large and will donate like crazy in small donations- but we lack the big money boys that can throw a million here or there. We are the Army- not the Generals

[OLJWales]

The State way would be starting a fund like GoFundMe where State grads would donate $10, $20, $50 bucks. The State family is large and will donate like crazy in small donations- but we lack the big money boys that can throw a million here or there. We are the Army- not the Generals

This gives me College Sports Jock Rash.

[BeardoMSU]

The State way would be starting a fund like GoFundMe where State grads would donate $10, $20, $50 bucks. The State family is large and will donate like crazy in small donations- but we lack the big money boys that can throw a million here or there. We are the Army- not the Generals

We'd still get buried with this as our only strategy.

[confucius say]

There's no reason to everybody on here can't donate at least $250 a year. Honestly, if you're not willing to do that, don't complain.

[Coach34]

We'd still get buried with this as our only strategy.

We’re getting buried now. We have to go outside the box

[The Federalist Engineer]

Go Fund Me is a skimmer site, takes a direct bite from the hide. 3% or so.

Venmo with a password to watch Fall Ball and Maroon-White Series is better. With play-by-play with Jay Powell and Ron Polk.

I don't want to be fed media bullshit about Stinnett's electric stuff or Cerantola not walking anybody over 18 innings. Or Bryce Chance being the new Ichiro.

Especially this year, that password would be worth 250.

[Maroonthirteen]

The athletes are placing themselves in direct competition with the university for booster and tv money.

Yesterday, Nappier said the athletes should get a cut of the TV money. Ok Billy, what line items on the current athletic budget are you cutting to add athlete payroll expense?

Ok big booster, here is your $50000 bill for the suite for the season.
Hey mr booster, this is Bulldog Initiative, give us $50000 for the next recruiting class?

My Booster has to double down or has a decision to make.

[Maroonthirteen]

States greatest hope is players turn down nil money or transfer out after a year or two from the big money schools.

I'm sure the money is nice at the rich schools but you would think at some point, the players on the bench just want to play. Not just be held on the shelf as inventory.

[Coursesuper]

We’re getting buried now. We have to go outside the box

Bingo, within 5 years we could be finding it very difficult to be competitive.

[Coach34]

States greatest hope is players turn down nil money or transfer out after a year or two from the big money schools.

I'm sure the money is nice at the rich schools but you would think at some point, the players on the bench just want to play. Not just be held on the shelf as inventory.

But that’s the problem. NIL is there for transfers and they are shopping for top dollar

[Dawgfan77]

I cant verify- but my understanding is that we raised around $3MM TOTAL so far. As in TOTAL for all sports

We have had more people and business step up since last year. We are over that number by a large margin. The issues we had early on have been somewhat rectified but could still use some work.
We were very unorganized at the start and we all know why (leadership), and that's probably where that 3MM was coming from with the early struggles.

[Cooterpoot]

The athletes are placing themselves in direct competition with the university for booster and tv money.

Yesterday, Nappier said the athletes should get a cut of the TV money. Ok Billy, what line items on the current athletic budget are you cutting to add athlete payroll expense?

Ok big booster, here is your $50000 bill for the suite for the season.
Hey mr booster, this is Bulldog Initiative, give us $50000 for the next recruiting class?

My Booster has to double down or has a decision to make.

Nothing like millionaires telling everyone how to spend money. Some of these coaches are out of control. It's 17ing ridiculous to pay insane amounts to a college athlete and coaches. They deserve some money, but not insane money. I'd just assume scrap athletics. And at some point, when the richest schools are playing in a seperate division, things might normalize a little

[Maroonthirteen]

But that’s the problem. NIL is there for transfers and they are shopping for top dollar

I get it. However the point I was trying to make is, at some point it is a numbers game. There is only so many positions on the field and the window of opportunity is only 4-5 years. How long is a very good baseball player happy on the bench vs taking less money every month to actually be in the starting line up?

The top dollar will get and retain the best of the best. But at some point, some good talent will ignore the money to get an opportunity to actually play. I hope.

[maroonmania]

Nothing like millionaires telling everyone how to spend money. Some of these coaches are out of control. It's 17ing ridiculous to pay insane amounts to a college athlete and coaches. They deserve some money, but not insane money. I'd just assume scrap athletics. And at some point, when the richest schools are playing in a seperate division, things might normalize a little

The whole thing is turning into garbage. This is WAY worse than pro sports. Big time college sports is now turning into what pro sports would be if there were no team salary caps and no multi year contracts. Eventually only the richest schools with the richest boosters will have any chance to compete at a high level in any of the sports that have any fan interest. If that is what it's coming to then yes, I am fine with just shutting it down. I can just watch pro sports at that point because they do at least give every team in the league a chance to compete.

[Maroonthirteen]

Nothing like millionaires telling everyone how to spend money. Some of these coaches are out of control. It's 17ing ridiculous to pay insane amounts to a college athlete and coaches. They deserve some money, but not insane money. I'd just assume scrap athletics. And at some point, when the richest schools are playing in a seperate division, things might normalize a little

Couldn't agree more.

I wish these conferences and schools would quit ***** footing around. Have a meeting. Get OHSt Mich and a few others in the "sec" and be done with it. The "sec" becomes the new CFA and lets go.

[Rawdawg]

The names on the athletic facilities are repeating themselves and that?s not a good thing.

[basedog]

Money hasn't effective USM. Just saying. Baseball I'm saying. So many good baseball players who don't get attention.

[msstatelp1]

Jake Mangum seemed to think highly of Lemonis. I think I'll trust his judgment since he was proven correct on the "first championship" prediction.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

If A&M buys 2 good catchers, only one can play. The lesser of the 2 will transfer, we may be able to outbid some other schools for "used car" prices... but we will still be playing a catcher that is worse than the one A&M has.

USM does a great job of finding under the radar guys... but that's 1) really hard to do long term, and 2) really hard to be elite without top flight MLB talent like Bednar or Sims, who we will lose to big NIL contracts.

College athletics is OVER for State. It just is. We will literally be outspent 10:1 by over a dozen programs in every sport. Pooling all NIL money into baseball would help, but I guarantee you the big school will double what we have in that sport.

Imagine a 2nd draft: right now, MLB takes most of the top HS talent. State was still even with other college teams because MLB affected us all. But imagine of after the MLB, there was a 2nd draft and A&M, Texas, TN, etc bought $8m worth of the HS guys left, and THEN State went to recruiting the leftovers along with the other "poor" Colleges. That is our reality

[confucius say]

It won't be this way too long. Probably a 3-4 year window before it implodes and measures are put into place.