Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
Polk missed postseason 9 times and Cohen 3 times. Let's not pretend we haven't missed some postseason here and there. Hell, Lemonis hasn't even missed a CWS until this year. Two full seasons, two CWS. Had a damn good team in the Covid year too. Only coach with a Natty. Y'all getting crazy. We aren't the AL of college baseball or something.
We'll bring in some people and see how it goes. We'll be young/inexperienced depth wise. We basically missed one year of recruiting due to the Canz crap putting behind. That year has to be corrected with good portal guys. Problem is, the baseball portal isn't the same as the football portal where AL can go get a good player from LSU. We won't go get a 5 star transfer that can just be our ace.
Polk's heyday was a different era when 48 teams made the field. It's a lot harder now. Cohen had a massive rebuild. We need and should strive to be the Alabama of baseball. We've now won everything we can win and that's the next logical step.

Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
If you can't build momentum after a Natty, when can you? It's not crazy to think that a year after a Natty when we return 6 of 9 starters, we should make a Regional. Not crazy at all. The injuries hurt, for sure, but we sucked before them. All I'm saying is, if Lemonis can't hit the portal and recruiting trail and promise immediate playing time at THIS program where it is now...he may be Gene Chizik. I hope he's not, and I'm not saying he is...I'm just saying he better turn it around next year or many, including myself, will think he's unable to build a program and can only win with a roster of studs recruited by someone else.

With transfer portal and NIL, this isn't the Polk days where you just keep a coach forever and hope he has some great years mixed in amongst the shitty ones. That's a good way to find yourself wasting a National Championship and at the bottom of the league. Baseball is all we've got, let's face it....we can't afford to let it crumble bc we're still high off of a Title. I want Lemonis to feel some pressure so he will produce.

If he is worth his salt...he's pissed and will turn it around next year. That's what I'm hoping for, bc I actually like him.
Look- Cohen and our fan base are not going to allow anyone to tank the program. Period. Being reasonable- if he can't get us back to our normal Super Regional level in a couple of years with new assistants then we probably make a change.

Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
Here's the problem. People have no clue obviously how baseball recruiting works. We did build momentum. Our 24/25 classes are insane.. that's off of the ship. We still have guys playing that committed to COHEN. Think about that. And for those that are comparing vitello, he walked into a dump which is tough to turn aroun. BUT, it allows you to punt the entire roster and start from scratch. Lem took us the series twice and missed a great opportunity for 3. Would y'all be happy if he didn't do that so he could get "his" guys?? Hell no. Just back away for a minute. We've Invented ways to lose. Lots is injuries and poor play to top. I'm not saying lem isn't open for criticism, but this is nuts.
Good point. Most of our fans think that winning a National Championship means that we will immediately have an impact class when in reality it takes a couple of years to reap the full rewards of a National Title. The thing is people have a hard time being patient and seeing the big picture in regards to that.

Quote Originally Posted by Ranchdawg View Post
?We are not the Bama of baseball.? WHY NOT? With that type of attitude we will always have a very mediocre atheletic Dept. across the board. And don?t give me the old worn out we are poor, we are in Starkville, we are in a rural state. Blab blab, all excuses! Lemonis, Foxhall and Gotro go out there and do your job, a job you are paid a lot of money to do and win games, period! Not saying fire them but put some fire up their @#&.

Are we fans not supposed to be angry by what we are witnessing on the field. You damn right we are supposed to be angry and angry as hell. And want it understood in baseball we don?t play second fiddle to anyone in this country and that has been a FACT for a long time.
Yep!

Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
I think Foxhall is a bigger problem than GoTro. Just look at this weekend.

Florida pitchers pounded the zone at the knee.
Florida pitchers had alot of run on their pitches
Florida pitchers changed speeds beautifully

State pitchers?

Rare back....throw hard. And throw a 3-2 breaking ball for ball 4.
Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
Well, coaching comes into play when you arent pushing 1st rounders out there to play. Our pitching doesnt exactly scream "well coached"

We couldnt fix Bacon
Macloud got worse as the season went on
We couldnt fix Walling
Tepper has been sporadic
Fristoe has an ERA over 6
Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
He definitely calls pitches. He handles the walkie-talkie. I think his pitch-calling sux. Presto kept throwing 1st pitch breaking balls the other night to start and they finally sat on one and hammered it for a HR. We throw wayyyyy too many breaking balls on 3-2. We dont call the change near enough.

We throw alot more 4 seamers than 2 seamers. I see other staffs with guys throwing 88-90 getting alot of run on the ball whereas our guys stuff stays so flat. I know power arms are all the rage now but when you throw 88-91 movement should be your primary concern.

Between all that, pitching decisions, recruiting decisions- I just think there are better guys out there than what we have
I agree 100% with all of this. And yet most of our fans seem to want Gautreau to be fired? I don't get it. Our team ERA is near 6. Meanwhile yes the offense struggles with RISP but they also are 14 away from a school record in home runs and the offense is statistically similar to last year.

Quote Originally Posted by AlSwearengen View Post
I like this post. It seems that we are obsessed with the 4 seam but you have to have the right guys for it. I can’t think of one pitcher that we have other than B. Smith that I see a good bit of arm side run from.

That said, does a lot of it have to do with the gaps in recruiting?
Maybe a little bit. But it has more to do with injuries and poor coaching. Foxhall just isn't very flexible. He tries to coach every game the same way regardless. That works fine if you have the Landon Sims ace in the hole card you can play. But that's rare. Like I said- very few mound visits and he just lets guys try to figure it out. I don't get it. Yes, we've had injuries but he hasn't really done us any favors this year. Leaves starters in too long. Takes out guys when they're in a groove. And it seems like he tries to force people into roles like when he tried to make Fristoe the closer. And then like Coach said- he patterns our pitches too much. Even educated fans shouldn't be picking up on that. It's embarrassing for him.

We need to get either Frank Johnson from Tennessee who I think would be a great addition to the staff because he is fiery instead of the three nice choir boys we have coaching. Could help the team. I'd take Christian Ostrander from USM as well. You have to be able to recruit and develop to succeed like he has at Delta State, Arkansas State, and USM. Plus he has coached at Alabama so he isn't completely foreign to the SEC. I'd look at Dallas Baptist too. That place is a pitching factory.