Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
So was Saban. He had players quitting in training camp and his locker room fell apart.

So was kiffin.

I'm not saying judge would win in college. But lots of coaches have failed in the nfl in their first gig before being good in college or later in the nfl, including Carroll and belichek.
Saban, Spurrier, Meyer, Pete Carroll, Bill O'Brien and and many successful colleges coaches got chewed up and spit out by the NFL. I believe coaching in the NFL is many times harder than college. Certainly Joe was not ready for a NFL HC job, but he can learn from his experience and improve. He probably needs to go through the Saban car wash.