Latest rumors on the Kimchee's and such

[Coach34]

Just a nugget or two

1. Heard that the reason Mikhail Miller transferred is because he reported the drug use by the Kimchee's and others to the coaching staff. It filtered down to those players he reported them- it got ugly- he decided to leave the program. Alsosaid Miller hasnt been the only one "bullied" by them. Another parent has met with Freezus about it.

2. Freezus was the lead dog in getting the Kimchee assault covered up and no charges filed. He called in a few favors on this one. The legal team knows it and is going to try and expose it somehow. This is one major concern for the OM people right now.

3. Numerous offers were made to keep this under wraps- all turned down. This case is not about money for the kid and his parents- they are pissed.

My buddy said- "Wool- if it was about money- it would have never seen the light of day. They have been offered enough of that. These people want someone's head. The Kimchee's may end up being Freeze's "Renardo Sidney"

[Political Hack]

2 is what I was alluding to the other day. It could get much, much worse for them if any of those details begin to surface.

[RossDawg82]

Just a nugget or two

1. Heard that the reason Mikhail Miller transferred is because he reported the drug use by the Kimchee's and others to the coaching staff. It filtered down to those players he reported them- it got ugly- he decided to leave the program. Alsosaid Miller hasnt been the only one "bullied" by them. Another parent has met with Freezus about it.

2. Freezus was the lead dog in getting the Kimchee assault covered up and no charges filed. He called in a few favors on this one. The legal team knows it and is going to try and expose it somehow. This is one major concern for the OM people right now.

3. Numerous offers were made to keep this under wraps- all turned down. This case is not about money for the kid and his parents- they are pissed.

My buddy said- "Wool- if it was about money- it would have never seen the light of day. They have been offered enough of that. These people want someone's head. The Kimchee's may end up being Freeze's "Renardo Sidney"

I don't agree with this at all. Although Sidney was probably the laziest thing to ever step foot on our court he was never in trouble with the law as far as I know. I think the Kimdeechi boys are much worse than Sidney.

[hells bells]

2 is what I was alluding to the other day. It could get much, much worse for them if any of those details begin to surface.

That is huge. Any word on Deadspin?

[elitedawgs]

That is huge. Any word on Deadspin?

Yes, it might be the biggest troll effort in the history of troll efforts.

[engie]

I don't agree with this at all. Although Sidney was probably the laziest thing to ever step foot on our court he was never in trouble with the law as far as I know. I think the Kimdeechi boys are much worse than Sidney.

That was your key phrase. Sidney's problems were swept under the rug to an even greater extent than the Nkemdiches'. You never found it odd that he "went back to Texas to work out" when the TEAM left the country to go overseas in the fall of 2012? Shocked me that no one really seemed to ask questions at the time...

[Coach34]

I don't agree with this at all. Although Sidney was probably the laziest thing to ever step foot on our court he was never in trouble with the law as far as I know. I think the Kimdeechi boys are much worse than Sidney.

He meant it from the standpoint that Sidney was what led to Stands being fired is my guess

[hells bells]

Yes, it might be the biggest troll effort in the history of troll efforts.

So, you doubt this info? Me, do not know if it is fact or not. If it is this is a game changer.

[gtowndawg]

with his bare hands (and feet).

//No, the Elgin Bailey fight doesn't count. They just needed a snickers.

[RossDawg82]

That was your key phrase. Sidney's problems were swept under the rug to an even greater extent than the Nkemdiches'. You never found it odd that he "went back to Texas to work out" when the TEAM left the country to go overseas in the fall of 2012? Shocked me that no one really seemed to ask questions at the time...

I did find that odd. But I still think the Kimdichee boys are more of a cancer than Sidney was. I think TSUN has more of a Miami Hurricanes type issue going on. There is no control over that team at all and no player leadership. Year in and Year out, MSState has at least 1 or 2 leaders on the team, be it Russell or Dak or someone on the Defense. We play as a unit. Ole Miss does not and their best leader is Sunshine.

[Coach34]

I certainly think the Kimchee's are more of an issue simply because of all the legalities that have arisen already. No doubt about it

Freezus is not the only one worrying about their job right now

[blacklistedbully]

But don't you know the N brothers filed a counter-suit? According to a Bear on Rivals, that proves they are innocent, and that this is going to go away quietly very soon.

[engie]

DT Shackleford and Cody Prewitt are as good of quality leadership guys as you'll find. There are some quality "glue" guys on that team -- but there may not be enough of them to keep everyone pulling in the right direction(See MSU 2012).

[bannedwayne]

Just a nugget or two

1. Heard that the reason Mikhail Miller transferred is because he reported the drug use by the Kimchee's and others to the coaching staff. It filtered down to those players he reported them- it got ugly- he decided to leave the program. Alsosaid Miller hasnt been the only one "bullied" by them. Another parent has met with Freezus about it.

2. Freezus was the lead dog in getting the Kimchee assault covered up and no charges filed. He called in a few favors on this one. The legal team knows it and is going to try and expose it somehow. This is one major concern for the OM people right now.

3. Numerous offers were made to keep this under wraps- all turned down. This case is not about money for the kid and his parents- they are pissed.

My buddy said- "Wool- if it was about money- it would have never seen the light of day. They have been offered enough of that. These people want someone's head. The Kimchee's may end up being Freeze's "Renardo Sidney"

Agree with most everything here.

With concern to number 2, I head a rumor from a Bear friend that Freeze personally talked to the KA officers after the incident to calm them down.

Only disagreement is number 3. Yes, they are pissed and yes, it's about the money. $1M in punitive damages isn't chump change.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Just a nugget or two

2. Freezus was the lead dog in getting the Kimchee assault covered up and no charges filed. He called in a few favors on this one. The legal team knows it and is going to try and expose it somehow. This is one major concern for the OM people right now.

He was probably just doing what LeAnne Touy told him to do...leigh-anne-tuohy.jpg

[level set]

Having read through the civil complaint and seeing that UPD was unable to find anyone that could identify anyone, there are two or three scenarios that could play out.

1) The case is found to be without merit and will be thrown out. The plaintiff will have to present something to the courts that implicates the Nkemdiche brothers for this to proceed through the court. I just do not see a respected law firm pursuing this litigation without some silver bullet of sorts, they know the process well.

2) The plaintiff has some silver bullet, either a witness or more, video, something that implicates the Nkemdiche brothers. If this is the case, there is a good chance this survives all of the motions to dismiss, which will either lead to a trial or settlement.

3) The plantiff has some very damning evidence. This is where the conspiracy theories will reside, however this is a possibility.


After thinking this through and talking with some colleagues, things just do not add up. Why would a respected law firm go on a Kamikaze mission? According to UPD, there are no witnesses. A fraternity house that was full of people and was in the process of being cleared out and nobody saw anything? I find this hard to believe. This is where the conspiracy theorists will line up, alleging that someone tried to cover this up. The question then becomes who attempted to cover this up? We already see allegations that Hugh Freeze lead this alleged coverup effort.

Another point a colleague brought up, why only sue the Nkemdiche brothers? There is no dispute that two young men were severely beaten at the fraternity house after attending a fraternity house party. There is low hanging fruit there, this took place on fraternity property and the fraternity has money and insurance, so why not pursue them for damages? Today there is a much better chance that the fraternity can produce the funds required for a settlement. Two college football players cannot produce anything close to the demand made in the complaint. This would make some sense with the rumor number 3, the plaintiff has an axe to grind with the Nkemdiche brothers and perhaps someone else.

This will be interesting litigation to follow over the next several months.

[Coach34]

Only disagreement is number 3. Yes, they are pissed and yes, it's about the money. $1M in punitive damages isn't chump change.

True- but they have already been offered significant sums of money that wouldnt have been eaten up with legal fees.

[codeDawg]

This is pretty much in line with what I think is going on.

1. Even if they win, they will never see this money. They are going to have to go out of pocket to pay the lawyers at the end of the day. If they wanted money, they would have settled this a long time ago or they would have included someone who has money (KA, UPD, UM) in the case.

2. The police work is shitty at best. In a house full of people two kids get their heads kicked in and nobody knows anything? The victims identify the attackers and NOBODY can collaborate or give another ID? Come on. If somebody wanted to solve this one it would not have taken much effort.

3. The firm taking the case is 1. reputable, and 2. is going to take a LOT of heat locally for taking the case. This will cost them business, so they must be on to something worthwhile.

4. The neat thing about civil cases is that you can compel a witness to testify. They can claim the 5th amendment, but that can be used against them unlike a criminal case. I would not be surprised to see Freeze, Bjork, half the football team, half of KA, and the 2013 recruiting class on the stand. They could make this a real circus.

5. Don't be surprised if the "real attacker" shows up pretty soon. Also, don't be surprised if his family members all get promotions shortly after. The neat thing about this scenario is that if they prove it was RK & Co. in the civil trial, the cover up could sink more than those already under the lights.

Bodies are going under the bus soon. Going to make popcorn. BRB.

[Vandownbytheriver]

How is this different than the Winston case some of you so fiercely denied? Well, besides the Ole Miss factor. Alleged crime occurs, massive cover up ensues, details come out a year later, no charges filed, civil case ensues. Granted the Winston case hasn't went that way, but rumors are surfacing it may. I think both cases are evident that athletes are somehow more important than regular students. Especially high profile ones.

[bannedwayne]

Agreed. But as any good litigator knows, the best way to get a settlement from a publicly recognizable person is to try them in the court of public opinion if a under-the-table exchange doesn't work.

My guess is that the plaintiff refused the offers and used the threat of a public lawsuit as leverage. Kimdichee's tried to call his bluff, but he laid the hammer down.