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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    It's a shock because he constantly makes horrible decisions on offense. You'd think Ray would pull him some for a little coaching time in his ear every once in awhile thus reflecting on his minutes played. By the looks of it Flat Shot hasn't been pulled often if at all for his bad decision making.
    That's the problem.. We don't have the bench to pull kids when they make mistakes for coaching reasons.. Other teams do.. And its all not about scoring.. Fred is on of our better defenders. has the size, speed and length to guard the 2 and the 3. Im sure he has had to even guard the 4 at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic View Post
    Why is that a shock.?? who should lead in minutes played.?? Maybe it because Fred guards well and stays out of foul trouble. Lots of factors go into minutes played.. 2 quick fouls in the first half and you are riding pine till the 2nd. And I doubt very many 4's and 5's lead their respective teams in minutes played.. IJ is a freshman who has had some injury issues. Plus Bloodman has played very well for us this year..
    Not Fred Thomas.

    I'd rather Sword play with 2 fouls at the end of the first half and foul out with 2 minutes to play in the 2nd and us be winning or it be close than us get blown out before the 1st is over and have Sword able to go in the final minutes.

    Hell, I'd be ok with Roq getting the most minutes. He might not be as good on D but he doesn't make stupid ass fouls with .00000001 seconds left in the half and his offense doesn't cost us 0-18 runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic View Post
    That's the problem.. We don't have the bench to pull kids when they make mistakes for coaching reasons.. Other teams do.. And its all not about scoring.. Fred is on of our better defenders. has the size, speed and length to guard the 2 and the 3. Im sure he has had to even guard the 4 at times.
    This is false. We have 11 basketball players not eight. Maybe just ten now that it sounds like Ray ran off Alabama's Mr. Basketball. We have plenty of bench to be able to pull a player after bad decision making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Maybe just ten now that it sounds like Ray ran off Alabama's Mr. Basketball.
    I thought for a while you were trying to evaluate honestly but were just quick to see the negative. Now it seems you're just another guy that will try to use anything and everything to bash our coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I thought for a while you were trying to evaluate honestly but were just quick to see the negative. Now it seems you're just another guy that will try to use anything and everything to bash our coach.
    So he's coach34 in training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I thought for a while you were trying to evaluate honestly but were just quick to see the negative. Now it seems you're just another guy that will try to use anything and everything to bash our coach.
    I am not sure what's worse.. A post about FT leading our team in minutes played, or me actually trying to explain why that may be..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I cant wait for next year
    Gosh I wish I shared this sentiment re: our basketball team. You are far more optimistic than I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I thought for a while you were trying to evaluate honestly but were just quick to see the negative. Now it seems you're just another guy that will try to use anything and everything to bash our coach.
    I just call it like I see it. I give Ray credit for there being no suspension this year and for using the S&C program. But as far as only playing eight guys when you've got eleven/ten should get discussed as well.

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    Easy explanation - you play ten or eleven players if they are capable of running the offense and defense and/or if they are decent players. So, in Ray's eyes, the guys we don't play either simply aren't good players or they don't know the system well enough.

    How many college or high school teams do you watch who have a full bench, but still only play 8-10 guys? Lots of them.

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    The threads that never ends
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
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    It goes on and on my friends.
    Some people started posting it, not knowing where it'd go.
    And they'll continue posting in it forever just because.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad Stevens View Post
    How many college or high school teams do you watch who have a full bench, but still only play 8-10 guys? Lots of them.
    The key to me is the flexibility to go beyond that if/when you NEED to. Ray doesn't have that. So, when players aren't there mentally, are lazy, practice badly, etc -- he can't exactly bench them to teach them a lesson yet. IMO that contributes to the faltering we're seeing going down the stretch here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    The threads that never ends
    Atleast for the most part the basketball bitch pong is kept in one area instead of 10 different threads

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    I am keeping it alive . Hey Dawg61 who is the Juco guard from Ala. who you keep talking about and check out the Commerical Appeal article on Willie Atwood at Conners St.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Atleast for the most part the basketball bitch pong is kept in one area instead of 10 different threads

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat from MSU View Post
    I am keeping it alive . Hey Dawg61 who is the Juco guard from Ala. who you keep talking about and check out the Commerical Appeal article on Willie Atwood at Conners St.
    Jay Watkins at Gadsden State, 4th in the nation at 25.2 points a game and avg 9.4 rebounds. He's a forward and not a 3point shooter though. http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2...jaywatkinsefn7

    Can you copy paste the article, you have to be a subscriber to view it
    Last edited by Dawg61; 02-18-2014 at 04:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat from MSU View Post
    I am keeping it alive . Hey Dawg61 who is the Juco guard from Ala. who you keep talking about and check out the Commerical Appeal article on Willie Atwood at Conners St.
    Nice find on Atwood. http://www.jucorecruiting.com/willie...tment-heating/

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