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08-10-2021, 07:13 PM
#121

Originally Posted by
CaptainObvious
I have had Covid twice!
1st time was end of February, 2020 when I came home from an International Food Show in Orlando, Fl. at Disney with nearly 5000 attendees, including the Far East, the Middle East, The island Nations, South and Central America.
The second time was in November.
I got both vaccinations this past spring.
And I can assure you there is no one on here more ?conservative? than me.
But.... it was a personal choice... and everyone has to take personal responsibility. Choose wisely, because the only two certainties in life.... are Death and Taxes. Unless you are over 80 and are ready to meet your maker, I suggest taking the taxes.
True. Getting it twice is very rare and an exception. Truth is natural immunity is way better than any vaccine they can mix up. They have been working on this for decades for SARS viruses with no success. Now experimental drugs. The Moderna guy said the mnra mix is not even safe for animals - his words not mine.
It is a personal choice and there is no one right answer as so many arrogant folks seem to want to look down their noses at people over. I know deaths on all sided, hospitalizations and life altering conditions from Covid and vaccine so folks need to shut up on the vax everyone.
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08-10-2021, 07:18 PM
#122

Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Oh ... not very hard if the data is accurate. That's the question. Lots of "science" everyone was on board with last year where the data wasn't accurate, reports were wrong, articles were wrong, etc.
But ... you keep having an absolute opinion on any f***ing thing you read, especially when it jives with your "feelings". And keep telling everyone they're dumbasses ... dumbass.
You're brilliant.
Yep the left destroyed science. Science is now a word used by lazy people that want their opinion to be fact. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
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08-10-2021, 07:25 PM
#123

Originally Posted by
Interpolation_Dawg_EX
For all of those adamant that everyone has to vaccinated, did you take the flu shot every year prior to covid?
That has nothing to do with it man. People are allowed to evolve their decision making process when presented with new information and circumstances. I have a lot of respect for people that can change their mind when the information dictates they maybe should do something different. What I don't understand is why people try and deflect and go so hard against the grain in this situation. I'd rather people just admit "I don't want to get it because I don't like being told what to do" and leave it at that instead of bringing up straw man arguments. At the end of the day, nothing anyone says about flu shots, illegals crossing the border, the government censoring therapies helps them protect themselves from having a bad experience with this virus. The data on the vaccine shows that it does, so why die on that hill?
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08-10-2021, 07:35 PM
#124

Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
Yep the left destroyed science. Science is now a word used by lazy people that want their opinion to be fact. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
Serious question. Who are you all wanting to hear it from to believe the vaccine to this point is helpful? My guess is no one.
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08-10-2021, 07:38 PM
#125

Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
This is the truth so 3.2.1 mods getting ready to shut it down.
Another moron... not shocked.
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08-10-2021, 07:58 PM
#126

Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
True. Getting it twice is very rare and an exception. Truth is natural immunity is way better than any vaccine they can mix up. They have been working on this for decades for SARS viruses with no success. Now experimental drugs. The Moderna guy said the mnra mix is not even safe for animals - his words not mine.
It is a personal choice and there is no one right answer as so many arrogant folks seem to want to look down their noses at people over. I know deaths on all sided, hospitalizations and life altering conditions from Covid and vaccine so folks need to shut up on the vax everyone.
Oh. Make no mistake. I think it was deliberately released and I feel confident they knew it would mutate and mutate and mutate some more. The releasers were counting on the arrogance of certain democracies to let their guard down. This one will peak in a few weeks, we will relax for a few months and then the next mutation, stronger than this one, will run it?s course.
They just couldn?t work out the One World Order until they eliminated about 10-15% of the World?s population. It is here to stay.
By the time every mutation of this virus runs through the world, there will be 10?s of millions dead from it.
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08-10-2021, 08:12 PM
#127

Originally Posted by
CaptainObvious
Oh. Make no mistake. I think it was deliberately released and I feel confident they knew it would mutate and mutate and mutate some more. The releasers were counting on the arrogance of certain democracies to let their guard down. This one will peak in a few weeks, we will relax for a few months and then the next mutation, stronger than this one, will run it?s course.
They just couldn?t work out the One World Order until they eliminated about 10-15% of the World?s population. It is here to stay.
By the time every mutation of this virus runs through the world, there will be 10?s of millions dead from it.

Thank you soooo much lord for my sanity, much lacking in the Trump cult.
Last edited by Turfdawg67; 08-10-2021 at 08:14 PM.
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08-10-2021, 08:14 PM
#128

Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
This is the truth so 3.2.1 mods getting ready to shut it down.
J.H.C....no, no its not.
I mean,, sure,, if you believe the My Pillow guy or some other grifter, lol.
It is so ****ing easy to debunk this drivel, but its not even worth it, because you'll just call it fake news/liberal science/or fill in _________ bullshit.
Holy shit.
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08-10-2021, 08:16 PM
#129

Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
Thank you soooo much lord for my sanity, much lacking in the Trump cult.
When do the shape-shifting lizard people come for our children, though? Want to make sure I'm ready...
Oh snap...isn't something "yuge" supposedly happening in August that will save us all?*************
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08-10-2021, 08:18 PM
#130

Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
J.H.C....no, no its not.
I mean,, sure,, if you believe the My Pillow guy or some other grifter, lol.
It is so ****ing easy to debunk this drivel, but its not even worth it, because you'll just call it fake news/liberal science/or fill in _________ bullshit.
Holy shit.
Ha! His wife/cousin thinks you're full of sh*t...
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08-10-2021, 08:19 PM
#131
What causes something to mutate?
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08-10-2021, 09:43 PM
#132
Last edited by BeardoMSU; 08-10-2021 at 09:47 PM.
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08-11-2021, 07:37 AM
#133
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08-11-2021, 08:38 AM
#134

Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
What's more important - numbers being reported or hospital capacity?
The answer to all of this vaccine discussion is simple - if hospitalized without being vaccinated - you're required to pay the bill for your treatment/care.
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08-11-2021, 08:42 AM
#135

Originally Posted by
Gutter Cobreh
What's more important - numbers being reported or hospital capacity?
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I think it's all important. The WH and desantis have a spat, then all-the-sudden, the CDC taints Florida's poor numbers to make them even worse. And then people wonder why there's a big portion of the population that doesn't trust the government
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08-11-2021, 09:02 AM
#136

Originally Posted by
msstate7
I think it's all important. The WH and desantis have a spat, then all-the-sudden, the CDC taints Florida's poor numbers to make them even worse. And then people wonder why there's a big portion of the population that doesn't trust the government
I noticed a trend in the data no one else was talking about. It's 3 plots of 3 different parameters. Looking at data from individual states' websites. I developed somewhat of a theory based on trend. All of this about a week ago. No one else was talking about it.
Now one doctor has voiced opposition to vaccine and his reasons why would explain almost precisely the trends I was seeing. Don't know if he's a very good doc or if he sucks as a doc. Not saying it's true or not yet ... just sayin.
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08-11-2021, 09:09 AM
#137
Thanks to this thread for reminding me that a sizeable segment of our fanbase are disgustingly horrible.
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08-11-2021, 09:34 AM
#138

Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
Good info. I wish more stats like this were available in other areas.
and as long as the damn idiots keep getting policed.. yall can have this damn thread till football season starts.
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08-11-2021, 09:53 AM
#139
What is the demographics of the ones refusing to take the vaccines? On yeah, they can?t tell us that. What is the demographics of the unvaccinated that are hospitalized? Oh yeah, they can?t tell us that.
How many illegal immigrants are now taking hospital beds that came across the border the past 6 months? Oh yeah, the can?t tell us that.
And as far as my comments about the mutations mutating, your wonderful evil genius Dr. Fauci said that a new variant is coming and it will be worse than this one. And he says the vaccines will not fend it off. The Left?s hero!
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08-11-2021, 10:14 AM
#140

Originally Posted by
msstate7
I think it's all important. The WH and desantis have a spat, then all-the-sudden, the CDC taints Florida's poor numbers to make them even worse. And then people wonder why there's a big portion of the population that doesn't trust the government
Disagree. Not all stats are important. The reported number of cases doesn't change the fact that hospitals are over-run in FL, TX, MS, AR, etc.
The cases reported could be 1,000,000 or they could be 10 - either way - it doesn't currently free up an ICU bed. Capacity and resources to provide care are the only thing that is important (always has been in my view). When we didn't have a vaccine, case numbers helped track the spread. Now that there is a solution to the problem available for all (and for free) - who cares...
In TX, the Governor has mandated hospitals suspend elective surgeries - so - who do you think will ultimately foot the bill for the lost revenue those health organizations will sustain? If you come around to the correct answer - hint - taxpayer - then you see how this goes beyond personal choice.
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