Using your numbers, we averaged finishing 4.18th in the SEC, so 4th. That's actually ahead of where we stand when you compare resources/traditions/fan support/etc. So like I said earlier, we're more middle range, anywhere from 6-10. So yeah, I feel like Stans overachieved over his whole tenure. But even overachievers have to move on at some point. King Jackie falls into that camp too.

I wasn't really going that direction though. It wasn't a bash or praise Stans deal, I just wanted to lay out some ground level realities about what MSU basketball really is. But I do get your point. We were not elite under Stans, although that SEC overall championship was very nice.