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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Funny how you mention the place we are in "again". Can you tell me what coaches besides Stans and Howland that have put us in a "happy place". I will hang up and listen, that is all.
    I', not bashing you, but we have never been good over our time, only Babe did great things and he wasn't at Msu all that long.
    I will, as soon as you tell me the "happy place" Howland has us in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We beat Kentucky- the 1st time State has beaten John Calipari.
    We beat a team that is more talented than us
    We beat a team ranked ahead of us in the SEC
    We beat a 9-16 team by one point after blowing a lead.

    That is something to be excited about and again- this team will be improved in 2021-2022. Bama is tough and we will unlikely beat them- however- they play our style and we have a chance. Same with Tenn and same with UPig. I'm not saying we will win the SEC Tourney- but I am saying we match up with the teams on our road to the SEC Tourney title better than any other. Good win today- we beat Kentucky
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    Better hurry up and get that appreciation in, you only have a couple more hours.
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    I want Ben to stay. but saying that I can never figure out how we continue to let the other teams best 3 point shooter wander around wide ass open? in the last 9 games #11 has made 2 3s. But when He plays Us he is Reggie Miller. why can't we guard Him? Do not play Help defense off of Him. Take His ass out of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Funny how you mention the place we are in "again". Can you tell me what coaches besides Stans and Howland that have put us in a "happy place". I will hang up and listen, that is all.
    I', not bashing you, but we have never been good over our time, only Babe did great things and he wasn't at Msu all that long.
    Richard Williams

    Stands gets too much credit for some reason I dont understand. Our 1st SEC title under Williams was all Williams/Brady recruits and a Sr laden basketball team that had played together for 4 years. Give Stands credit for the Johnnie Walker/Erick Stevens/Orien Watson years too
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    I want Ben to stay. but saying that I can never figure out how we continue to let the other teams best 3 point shooter wander around wide ass open? in the last 9 games #11 has made 2 3s. But when He plays Us he is Reggie Miller. why can't we guard Him? Do not play Help defense off of Him. Take His ass out of the game.
    Because we play a sagging help the paint at all costs M2M D. We seemingly dont care who the 3 pt shooter is. That is the one part of Howland's coaching that bothers me.
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    How long has it been since we've had back to back clutch free throws like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Richard Williams

    Stands gets too much credit for some reason I dont understand. Our 1st SEC title under Williams was all Williams/Brady recruits and a Sr laden basketball team that had played together for 4 years. Give Stands credit for the Johnnie Walker/Erick Stevens/Orien Watson years too
    Yep to RW, but once again it doesn't happen often at Msu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Come on Jack, if what you say is true then Howland out coached Caliber in the first first half and our guys out played them. Our guys never quit and again who cares after the fact we won today and will get another chance to win today.
    The differenced is KY made adjustments at half and looks like State didn't make adjustment to to counter KY. If State only had aa 10 point lead at half they would have lost. I don't want Howland gone. I like him it 's just he did not do a good job the second half and KY coach did not do a good job the first half but he got better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    The differenced is KY made adjustments at half and looks like State didn't make adjustment to to counter KY. If State only had aa 10 point lead at half they would have lost. I don't want Howland gone. I like him it 's just he did not do a good job the second half and KY coach did not do a good job the first half but he got better.
    Pretty simple making adjustments with a team full of 4 and 5 stars.

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    It?s not cool to like a coach that has been just OK.

    Thing is, he is doing a decent job and he recruits fairly well. This coach and team should be supported better.

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    I appreciate that I only have to watch his non existent, Stone Age offense for one more year

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    I guess we should appreciate Croom since he beat Bama in football

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    I went to bed feeling good, but this morning be like:


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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Pretty simple making adjustments with a team full of 4 and 5 stars.
    Something doesn't add up here. So they are 2-3 stars more talented; have infinite better coaching that made adjustments at half and yet UK lost.

    This must be the new math everyone is teaching. I am all for deep thinking but someone explain that to the common folk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG View Post
    I guess we should appreciate Croom since he beat Bama in football
    And he beat Saban once. Lets bring Croom back, yes that is the answer. Joking for those that can't tell. Perspective is a powerful thing when used as is context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We beat Kentucky- the 1st time State has beaten John Calipari.
    We beat a team that is more talented than us
    We beat a team ranked ahead of us in the SEC

    That is something to be excited about and again- this team will be improved in 2021-2022. Bama is tough and we will unlikely beat them- however- they play our style and we have a chance. Same with Tenn and same with UPig. I'm not saying we will win the SEC Tourney- but I am saying we match up with the teams on our road to the SEC Tourney title better than any other. Good win today- we beat Kentucky
    OK I'll do it...Thank you Howland for continuing to prove me right. That you are in fact washed up and can't coach at all anymore.
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    If I didn't read this thread until today, do I still have to give Howland appreciation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    If I didn't read this thread until today, do I still have to give Howland appreciation?
    You're excused.

    For real though, everyone needs to just accept the fact howland will be here next season. He should have a team perfectly capable of making the tourney. Why don't we just give him and the team our support next season? If howland sinks next season with a tourney level team, we'll all be on the same page wanting him to go. Until then though, let's give the team a damn home court advantage and not bash em every day, all day.

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    If Stans takes WKU to the tourney this year while we are in year six of Howland while going 51-57 in the SEC since he got here with one NCAA tourney birth in six years, some heads may explode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    If Stans takes WKU to the tourney this year while we are in year six of Howland while going 51-57 in the SEC since he got here with one NCAA tourney birth in six years, some heads may explode.
    Those people need to move on. Everyone knows I am not a Howland fan but Stansbury is only a little step above. They are essentially one in the same. Good recruiters and bad in game coaches. With the talent Stansbury had he should?ve blown through that conference and been an 8 seed or so

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