Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
Todd nailed it with Montana going 4-0 plus never throwing a pick in the SB. Brady lost the SB with Randy Moss at WR and probably the best team ever other than the 85 Bears. Montana and Brady are the standard for NFL QB's. Montana was incredible as is Brady. Brady's longevity is what gives him an upper hand on Montana. And thats a big thing. But if I had to pick one to win 1 game or lead 1 drive? It's still Montana for me.

And that brings up who Montana had to play against- the 85 Bears, the Redskins and Giants of the 80's with their great talent- as the AFC was the weak sister- losing a decade of SB's in a row.

And I'll add- defensive rules of the last 15 years have been very QB and WR friendly- the 80's was brutal, rip your damn head off football. Different game if defenses could treat Brady as they did Montana
The athletic training is also miles better than it was in Montana's day along with better safety equipment. The offenses were very run heavy for the most part too. The 49ers Bill Walsh WCO, Don Coryell's Air Coryell, whatever the Dolphins were doing with Marino, and the old run and shoot were basically the only pass first offenses in the league at that time. Now everyone is throwing it at least 30 times a game or more. In the 80's you only did that if you were behind.

Like you said it's just different now as it will be 20 years from now as well. I think because of that you have to kind of eye test players to a degree. Jim Brown is probably the best player I have seen on any media but he doesn't have all the records any more. I feel the same with Montana. He was amazing in not only how he commanded the huddle, how accurate he was but also how accurate he was on the run. He may or may not be the GOAT but I do think that he is without question the gold standard for QB's. I think he changed the game and how people evaluate QB's. Brady is awesome but I don't think he changed the game or how people evaluate the position. Mahomes certainly could and probably has. You really see the baseball influence with Mahomes with how he changes arm angles at times like an infielder or a baseball player would. And I see Sawyer Robertson doing some of that in high school and no doubt he will bring that to us as well. And I'm sure lots of other QB's are doing the same.