Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
Yep. Started w candy who tried to zone us. Didn't work and they mixed the rest of the game. With that said, running it vs Missouri is the best thing we've done to help everything IMO.
Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
To keep doing what you did 30 years ago is a recipe for failure in any field. He has never been in SEC. If he don't adapt a little he will not ultimately raise the bar any at MSU and likely lowers it.

As far as running the ball, MSU has known how to run the ball for decades. We don't have to learn the air raid to run the ball. He could have run the ball early in the year. j Actually would make sense to run it more if the excuse is we didn't have the players or had not learned the new O but we didn't do that. He had the SEC leading rusher on his team and we threw the ball all the the time.
Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
I've said on many threads, I am willing to give Leach time but he didn't have to nuke our potential this year in my opinion. His very isolated success this year was by no means turning any corner as many have claimed.

Every coach preaches and practices repetition for execution excellence. Mullen, Saban, etc. That is nothing new, Leach didn't invent that. At the same time, any team that plays a perfect game is going to win. The key is not playing a perfect execution game and still winning because too many variables will ever let the stars line up too many times.

Well running the ball takes practice too and Leach obviously wasn't willing to invest in that pretty much all year and his track record says he is not going to invest much in running but my conviction is he has to in order to bring MSU to another level. I'm concerned we can't even maintain Moorhead win level after this year but as I said, we'll see what develops next year.
You're acting like he took over MSU 2018 instead of a 6-7 team with major culture issues. We won the same amount of SEC games that we won last year and would have been 6-6 with our OOC schedule so we're already at Moorhead level.

If you don't start to rebuild now then when do you rebuild? Leach didn't tell Kylin to puss out. Our players were given a choice to follow the program and some didn't want to do it for a variety of reasons. A big reason why Dan was successful was because he built the right culture here.

I never said that Leach "invented" high rep practices. My point is by adding extraneous plays that our players have to learn it takes away from the core plays of the offense which they have to master first. If they don't master it and we start adding things it hurts us in the long run and it probably wouldn't have worked anyway since the line struggled with both pass pro and running the ball. Except for game ten. And I'm not going to argue with Leach on how he is doing it when he is doing it the same way that has worked other places multiple times. Odds are based on history we will see a jump next year on offense. Let's see if it happens. We averaged 27 points per game our last four games bringing our totals up to 20.7 PPG on the season. In 2009 Dan averaged 22 PPG in SEC games.