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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    I have been told the chance of any of those 3 come back is almost zero. I obviously hope you are correct and not me but I am almost certain I am correct.
    The only way they come back is if they truly just love to play the college game. There's no way their stock rises much after already 5 years in college. ET would be like that dude DT Shackleford at Ole Miss that was like an 8th year senior. And I can't see Spencer coming back to play a 6th year with his injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    I have been told the chance of any of those 3 come back is almost zero. I obviously hope you are correct and not me but I am almost certain I am correct.
    I haven't been told anything, but just looking at these guys' situations, it really doesn't make too much sense for them to come back. If Errol came back, it'd be his 6th year in the program. There's nothing else he has left to prove. All he'd be doing is taking a year off his pro career. And really, the same could be said for Kobe and Marquiss.

    The only seniors I can see coming back are the ones that have something left to prove. Guys like Fred Peters, maybe Javonta Payton, maybe Sharp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Very shitty. Used the kid as Flip PR move .
    But no one to blame but Pounders..
    I don't understand why a team would do that to someone even their rival?

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    Those 3 aren’t getting drafted this year .. and I doubt anything would change next year .,
    Maybe they are looking past football.. come back get your masters for free
    It won’t take any years off their pro career if they leave after the season or next year .. they will sign FA agent contracts anyway ... and try to stay in league as long as they can...

    Again all 3 may not be back , all 3 may... I’m just telling everyone it’s a fact they are really considering it

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    I haven't been told anything, but just looking at these guys' situations, it really doesn't make too much sense for them to come back. If Errol came back, it'd be his 6th year in the program. There's nothing else he has left to prove. All he'd be doing is taking a year off his pro career. And really, the same could be said for Kobe and Marquiss.

    The only seniors I can see coming back are the ones that have something left to prove. Guys like Fred Peters, maybe Javonta Payton, maybe Sharp.
    Our kicker is coming back to get his MBA or something like that. These are the only cases I could see for it happening a 6th year type deal. Maybe Eiland and Sharp and Payton come back for a 5th year.

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    As far as seniors coming back, I noticed that Mitchell, Payton and Ruiz did not participate in senior day during the pre-game Saturday. There may have been more but I remember that those 3 did not come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjoelner34 View Post
    As far as seniors coming back, I noticed that Mitchell, Payton and Ruiz did not participate in senior day during the pre-game Saturday. There may have been more but I remember that those 3 did not come out.
    I'll be pumped if Ruiz comes back. Even though he missed one Saturday, he's the best kicker we've had in a long time. He's an NFL talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I don't understand why a team would do that to someone even their rival?
    I don't understand why a team would do that to a high school kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LC Dawg View Post
    I don't understand why a team would do that to a high school kid.
    Me either and it should be used against them by every school going head to head with them for a recruit. Just a plain low class, shitty thing to do. Kids getting dropped or processed is bad enough but getting one to turn down a sure thing only to shit on them after they do, takes it down to a new level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LC Dawg View Post
    I don't understand why a team would do that to a high school kid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mjoelner34 View Post
    Me either and it should be used against them by every school going head to head with them for a recruit. Just a plain low class, shitty thing to do. Kids getting dropped or processed is bad enough but getting one to turn down a sure thing only to shit on them after they do, takes it down to a new level.
    I'm with y'all on this. Honestly this may be the worst thing I've seen them do to someone in recruiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Those 3 aren’t getting drafted this year .. and I doubt anything would change next year .,
    Maybe they are looking past football.. come back get your masters for free
    It won’t take any years off their pro career if they leave after the season or next year .. they will sign FA agent contracts anyway ... and try to stay in league as long as they can...

    Again all 3 may not be back , all 3 may... I’m just telling everyone it’s a fact they are really considering it
    This is true. They're good players but they're not slam dunks to be drafted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I'm with y'all on this. Honestly this may be the worst thing I've seen them do to someone in recruiting.
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    This is true. They're good players but they're not slam dunks to be drafted.
    Well tbh Dan Mullen did a pretty crappy thing to a QB several years back. I can't remember his name right now though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt3467 View Post
    Well tbh Dan Mullen did a pretty crappy thing to a QB several years back. I can't remember his name right now though.
    Chason Virgil. Believe he dropped him about 16 days before signing day I think. Still, to flip a kid only to drop him a few days later is, to me, exponentially worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedFedder View Post
    Chason Virgil. Believe he dropped him about 16 days before signing day I think. Still, to flip a kid only to drop him a few days later is, to me, exponentially worse.
    And Mullen got raked over the coals by the media. I think Finebaum may have even covered it.
    Kiffin just got a kid to flip, wore a Merry Flipmas sweater to a press conference, and dropped the kid the day before signing day.
    We'll see what the media does but I don't expect anything to become of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt3467 View Post
    Well tbh Dan Mullen did a pretty crappy thing to a QB several years back. I can't remember his name right now though.
    Yes- unfortunately drops happen. But at least in that case Dan and our staff helped him find another spot and we didn't try to stage some recruiting day flip and then say "never mind we don't have room after all- Merry Flipmas!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LC Dawg View Post
    And Mullen got raked over the coals by the media. I think Finebaum may have even covered it.
    Kiffin just got a kid to flip, wore a Merry Flipmas sweater to a press conference, and dropped the kid the day before signing day.
    We'll see what the media does but I don't expect anything to become of it.
    You know the Clarion-Ledger won't do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I'm with y'all on this. Honestly this may be the worst thing I've seen them do to someone in recruiting.
    I can't recall anything as bad. I'm sure there is worse but not that I remember

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Horrible how??
    About 60 miles from Youngsville to BR..
    Trust me the ONLY thing that will keep this kid from coming here is distance..
    mom can drive an hour to watch her son play.
    Mom has to drive 7 plus to watch him play here.

    If we keep Him, props to the staff they have recruited their asses off not just to him but to the whole Fam

    I still think it?s good news come tomorrow
    Not the staff, know they?re working hard. This shit just happens every single year to us. Others close strong where we just try to hold onto what we have. Frustrating

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    We've lost one recruit and you guys think it's the end of the damn world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    We've lost one recruit and you guys think it's the end of the damn world.
    Nobody is acting like that, calm down dude. He makes a fair point, every single year we are trying to hold onto recruits that are committed to us all damn year

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