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    College Football Is In A Really Bad Spot

    The best teams are unwatchable.

    Bama is up 45-14 at half time in their biggest game of the year.

    Clemson cruises easily today

    Ohio State wins 52-12 without their head coach & 3 starting OL.

    This is a problem folks. You can look the other way, talk about all the money the sport is making, yada yada yada, but this is a real problem. The top end of the sport is unwatchable.

    The Egg Bowl, A&M vs Auburn, LSU vs Arkansas, MSU vs another mid level teams, the sport is great, but at the top end. The level where the championship & the history of the sport is written, the games absolutely suck.

    Here are Alabama's CBS games this season:

    52-24 vs A&M who may make the playoffs
    41-24 over UGA
    48-17 over TN
    42-13 over Auburn
    45-14 over LSU AT THE HALF.

    The CBS SEC package is a big pile of steaming shit. It's an unwatchable product & will fall in the public's popularity if something isn't done. It cannot continue like this.
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    How many times are you going to start this same thread? I think I?ve read a version of this post by you 25 different times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Tibbons View Post
    How many times are you going to start this same thread? I think I?ve read a version of this post by you 25 different times.
    I'll keep going until it's changed. It must be continually pointed out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Tibbons View Post
    How many times are you going to start this same thread? I think I?ve read a version of this post by you 25 different times.
    Exactly, it's a good product, and it makes a hell of a lot of money. The fact that Shotgun doesn't like it doesn't mean much at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Exactly, it's a good product, and it makes a hell of a lot of money. The fact that Shotgun doesn't like it doesn't mean much at all.
    - It's not a good product at the championship level of the sport. The mid-tier is good. Too many people get caught up in the pageantry and stadiums rather than the actual games.

    - It does make a lot of money but that doesn't mean it will always make a lot of money or mean that it can't make significantly more money with adjustments.

    - Completely agree with the last part, but I do what I can
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    I agree with you. But the BYU/Coastal game was so much fun. I know BYU isn?t a bad program but they are new to the top tier rankings for many and Coastal is a fun story. The sport needs new blood. A reduction of scholarships would do wonders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runwildjerious View Post
    I agree with you. But the BYU/Coastal game was so much fun. I know BYU isn?t a bad program but they are new to the top tier rankings for many and Coastal is a fun story. The sport needs new blood. A reduction of scholarships would do wonders.
    The mid-tier is fantastic. College football is the best sport in the world when similar level teams are playing. Unfortunately, the sport has a disconnected aristocracy that destroys the ability for anyone else to compete for anything of substance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    The mid-tier is fantastic. College football is the best sport in the world when similar level teams are playing. Unfortunately, the sport has a disconnected aristocracy that destroys the ability for anyone else to compete for anything of substance.
    I agree. Reducing the scholarships would be a good start though. Right now, teams like Bama and Clemson have 5 stars as third team players that might now play a lot until their senior year. I also think coaching salaries should be capped. It would cause less movement.

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    There are some really good games, but overall it's a bad product. Awful product. I guess the school Presidents or AD are the only ones that can change it. Or maybe the TV executives.

    I heard Colin Cowherd complaining about it last week. So it's starting to catch on nationally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runwildjerious View Post
    I agree. Reducing the scholarships would be a good start though. Right now, teams like Bama and Clemson have 5 stars as third team players that might now play a lot until their senior year. I also think coaching salaries should be capped. It would cause less movement.
    Yep, we played a game with 49 scholarship players and were competitive against UGA. So 70 would definitely be doable. The other key is there has to be a hard cap of 20 signees per year. No exceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Exactly, it's a good product, and it makes a hell of a lot of money. The fact that Shotgun doesn't like it doesn't mean much at all.
    It's a terrible product these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    There are some really good games, but overall it's a bad product. Awful product. I guess the school Presidents or AD are the only ones that can change it. Or maybe the TV executives.

    I heard Colin Cowherd complaining about it last week. So it's starting to catch on nationally.
    It's becoming painfully obvious. Maybe someday someone will give ED credit for starting the discussion long before anyone else
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    If I was commish of CFB:

    1. reduce scholarships from 85 to 70.
    2. Hard cap of 20 signees per year
    3. Eliminate redshirting. Grant athletes 5 years of eligibilty
    4. One "free" transfer allowed per athlete but there needs to be a transfer period that starts after spring ball and end July 31st.
    5. Athletes can transfer a 2nd time but must sit out a year if they do.
    6. There needs to be a standard number of on-field and off-field assistants.
    7. 11 Regular season games opening the door for a 16 team playoff.

    Pretty easy fixes and makes the season much more interesting for many more teams and fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Yep, we played a game with 49 scholarship players and were competitive against UGA. So 70 would definitely be doable. The other key is there has to be a hard cap of 20 signees per year. No exceptions.
    70 would work because the game's infrastructure has changed. Here are some points:

    - With 7 on 7, better coaching at the HS level, & modern strength training, FR have never been more ready to play from day 1.
    - Football has become less of an impact sport. With all the passing, more speed on the field, & more penalties for targeting & other illegal hits, there are less injuries than their used to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    If I was commish of CFB:

    1. reduce scholarships from 85 to 70.
    2. Hard cap of 20 signees per year
    3. Eliminate redshirting. Grant athletes 5 years of eligibilty
    4. One "free" transfer allowed per athlete but there needs to be a transfer period that starts after spring ball and end July 31st.
    5. Athletes can transfer a 2nd time but must sit out a year if they do.
    6. There needs to be a standard number of on-field and off-field assistants.
    7. 11 Regular season games opening the door for a 16 team playoff.

    Pretty easy fixes and makes the season much more interesting for many more teams and fans.
    Game... Set... Match.

    Great rules that would fix the sport. Great job
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    CBS has televised exactly ZERO Bama games this year that have gone into the 4th quarter close.

    It's like watching golf. Quiet & with no energy.

    The time slot that is supposed to televise the best matchups in college football doesn't have any games that go competitively into the 4th quarter
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    If I was commish of CFB:

    1. reduce scholarships from 85 to 70.
    2. Hard cap of 20 signees per year
    3. Eliminate redshirting. Grant athletes 5 years of eligibilty
    4. One "free" transfer allowed per athlete but there needs to be a transfer period that starts after spring ball and end July 31st.
    5. Athletes can transfer a 2nd time but must sit out a year if they do.
    6. There needs to be a standard number of on-field and off-field assistants.
    7. 11 Regular season games opening the door for a 16 team playoff.

    Pretty easy fixes and makes the season much more interesting for many more teams and fans.
    Love all of this. It would make CFB so much better from top to bottom- at least at the P5 level.

    When the P5 inevitably does break away for football, I?d love to see changes like these. Along with bowl games for a certain number of teams that miss out on the playoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    If I was commish of CFB:

    1. reduce scholarships from 85 to 70.
    2. Hard cap of 20 signees per year
    3. Eliminate redshirting. Grant athletes 5 years of eligibilty
    4. One "free" transfer allowed per athlete but there needs to be a transfer period that starts after spring ball and end July 31st.
    5. Athletes can transfer a 2nd time but must sit out a year if they do.
    6. There needs to be a standard number of on-field and off-field assistants.
    7. 11 Regular season games opening the door for a 16 team playoff.

    Pretty easy fixes and makes the season much more interesting for many more teams and fans.
    Bravo, sir! This is excellent! The blue bloods will never go for it but it's brilliant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    It's a terrible product these days.
    Agreed. There is a strong chance that the perceived best conference will have 8 of it?s 14 teams with losing records this year due to the all conference game schedule. We will never see a 10 conference game schedule again.

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    I didn?t read through it all because I?ve seen it before. So please tell me what happens to all these players who now lose opportunities at a college scholarship because you think it?s unfair. Tell me. Let?s take opportunities away because you aren?t happy

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