Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
Totally disagree with this.

We hired Jackie Sherrill- who had a natty on his resume. His NCAA baggage was his problem.
Croom was just a bad idea and hiring him over Jimbo Fisher is still one of the dumbest things LT ever did.
Mullen was playing for a Natty and considered one of the top OC's in the country
JoVester was considered a top OC in the country. Just turned out to be a bad HC
Leach has been successful and we hired him away from a P5 school

We haven't had any problems in the last 30 years hiring a football coach
All-time W-L-T records

MSU - 580-559-37.
Ole Miss - 647-517-34
Vanderbilt - 547-611-43
Bama - 936-305-42
LSU - 784-405-47
TN - 823-381-51
GA - 809-404-50
A&M - 732-474-44
FLA - 712-412-37
AU - 754-437-43
Mizzou - 637-540-50
ARK - 686-494-37
SC - 581-558-41
KY - 501-561-36

Before Mullen came in we had an overall losing record. Outside of KY and Vandy we have the worst record in the SEC. Even then KY has won the SEC twice. Besides one year under Mullen we haven't even had a winning record in SEC play since Sherrill. Our one year where we were in the running for a NC we threw it away by going on to lose by two scores to a collapsed OM team that had lost 3 of their last 4 and just came off a game where they lost to a 5-5 ARK team 0-30. We then of course lose to the complete opposite of the air raid in the Orange Bowl.

We were talked about as a coaching graveyard before Sherrill came here: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl...798-story.html
Sherrill still left here with an overall losing record (74-76) and losing record in bowls (2-4). You may say well that's because of the NCAA baggage and I'd tell you that's MSU for you. Mullen was our greatest coach but didn't it leave a sour taste in your mouth knowing the man was looking for a way out every year except maybe '09?

We can argue what ifs all the day long like what if Royal stayed, McKeen officially won the NC, Sherrill never had NCAA issues, why we hired Croom over Fisher, what if Mullen was committed to State, why we hired Moorhead when Kyle Whittingham wanted the job. None of that matters because it didn't happen.

Sometimes I wonder if the years we had under Mullen was really worth it because it seems to have really made our fanbase toxic. When we go from firing a coach two years in and wanting to fire the next one 4 games in that's a problem. Who in their right mind would ever want to come here and coach a team if he can't be given time to build it up. We aren't FLA, AU, GA, BAMA, LSU, A&M. We don't just reload. There's a reason people have called State a "dead-end place."