Another LSU starter out

[ZedFedder]

I am optimistic. I think our defense won't be very good, but we have an offense that can hopefully make up some of that.

[BiscuitEater]

They'll still be running the same offense. Sorry, they are. one asst left.

And, I thought Joe Borrow had left. Chase back now, too? Thought 3/4 of last years starters + many backups left too along with 5 starters for Covid. My bad! Just one asst left!

[Todd4State]

I am optimistic. I think our defense won't be very good, but we have an offense that can hopefully make up some of that.

Our defense may very well be Sirmon bad or whatever. But I will say that I think being aggressive on defense may help mask some things here and there.

To me basically it comes down to how well our JUCO guys like Jordan Davis and Kyle Cass do and also if some of our freshmen like Emmanuel Forbes and Janari Dean can be contributors early in their career.

[Madisonmd]

Got to get Jordan Davis healthy. Not practicing last week, in a boot

[Dawgfan77]

I didn't miss anything dude.... carry on. Hope we win...

I tried not to post much from my sources who has been at practice since day one. But I feel like I need to interject some things.
Our offense is ahead of any other team ML has been at first year. We still need a little more consistent play from our 2s at WRs. This OL is better than 18 at WSU. Best RBs room staff has ever had.
Defense. Point blank better than expected but little depth at CB. Young guys are very talented just lack experience. DL and LB will be a major surprise this year. We have four big time DL and we have some young depth that will play. Some of those young guys will go 100% but they don't have a total grasp of the D just yet but talent is their. The JUCO class will be special. Point blank. Not a Sweat guy but Davis is the real deal when healthy. Have some players in the back 7 safety is deeper than CB which will mask some CB issues.
We will be better than you and others think according to what I'm told

[msbulldog]

I tried not to post much from my sources who has been at practice since day one. But I feel like I need to interject some things.
Our offense is ahead of any other team ML has been at first year. We still need a little more consistent play from our 2s at WRs. This OL is better than 18 at WSU. Best RBs room staff has ever had.
Defense. Point blank better than expected but little depth at CB. Young guys are very talented just lack experience. DL and LB will be a major surprise this year. We have four big time DL and we have some young depth that will play. Some of those young guys will go 100% but they don't have a total grasp of the D just yet but talent is their. The JUCO class will be special. Point blank. Not a Sweat guy but Davis is the real deal when healthy. Have some players in the back 7 safety is deeper than CB which will mask some CB issues.
We will be better than you and others think according to what I'm told

That sounds very good! Rep given.

[StateDawg44]

I just don?t understand how LSU can have terrible news about more starters leaving every single day and the first thing people come on here and say is ?we are going to suck?. Well, so are they. The same problems we have on defense because of young 4 stars having to play before they are ready is what they are having to do with nearly their entire roster outside of about 4 spots right now. We are no longer playing LSU. We are now playing the equivalent of a mid level SEC team. So yea, we will probably still lose because we are probably slightly below a mid level sec team at the moment but the game went from ?we don?t have a snowballs chance in hell to win? to ?if we play really well we can win no matter what they do?. That?s exciting to me. Sorry that it offends some people.

Totally reasonable.

No one is beating their chest about it or anything.

[FISHDAWG]

This is the year to reset the culture.

I've accepted that we're going to see some horrific defense from out secondary at times, but, if those same young players, bring the wood and keep playing, I bet they do some things.

I'm really to see toughness and the football culture that represents MSU again.

Do that, and we'll be in a good spot following this season.

this is where my expectations are at .... I enjoy reading and discussion on this but it really sounds like we are trying to talk ourselves into a win ... even with the loss of key players they will still have control over our game. The following two years are where higher expectations should begin. Objectively speaking we still really have absolutely no idea what to expect from this offense other than it HAS to be better than JoMo's BS of last year. I would expect the line to be above 12 by kickoff

[BrunswickDawg]

Our defense may very well be Sirmon bad or whatever. But I will say that I think being aggressive on defense may help mask some things here and there.

To me basically it comes down to how well our JUCO guys like Jordan Davis and Kyle Cass do and also if some of our freshmen like Emmanuel Forbes and Janari Dean can be contributors early in their career.

The funniest thing about being Sirmon bad on defense - we just about beat LSU that year.

[Homedawg]

I tried not to post much from my sources who has been at practice since day one. But I feel like I need to interject some things.
Our offense is ahead of any other team ML has been at first year. We still need a little more consistent play from our 2s at WRs. This OL is better than 18 at WSU. Best RBs room staff has ever had.
Defense. Point blank better than expected but little depth at CB. Young guys are very talented just lack experience. DL and LB will be a major surprise this year. We have four big time DL and we have some young depth that will play. Some of those young guys will go 100% but they don't have a total grasp of the D just yet but talent is their. The JUCO class will be special. Point blank. Not a Sweat guy but Davis is the real deal when healthy. Have some players in the back 7 safety is deeper than CB which will mask some CB issues.
We will be better than you and others think according to what I'm told

Hope you are right. I too have sources. Mine sources and your sources disagree about defense. At least up until now. As I said earlier, jucos need to step up and some do later in the year. But at present, we aren't good on d. And our wr are marginal at best. With our schedule still hope for 5-5. ML will win here, just to what magnitude.

[Jarius]

Hope you are right. I too have sources. Mine sources and your sources disagree about defense. At least up until now. As I said earlier, jucos need to step up and some do later in the year. But at present, we aren't good on d. And our wr are marginal at best. With our schedule still hope for 5-5. ML will win here, just to what magnitude.

The funny thing is I expect our record to be 4-6 this year. I think the major difference in you and I is how well we think LSU will be. There is no way they are anything better than a mediocre sec team if they have 2 more people leave as expected by many.

[ShotgunDawg]

Our defense may very well be Sirmon bad or whatever. But I will say that I think being aggressive on defense may help mask some things here and there.

To me basically it comes down to how well our JUCO guys like Jordan Davis and Kyle Cass do and also if some of our freshmen like Emmanuel Forbes and Janari Dean can be contributors early in their career.

Big time disagree with it being Sirmon level if Arnett is a good coach.

Then Sirmon defense was one which players didn’t know what they were doing. Our current talent level is good enough to avoid that so long as the players are well coached

[ShotgunDawg]

Hope you are right. I too have sources. Mine sources and your sources disagree about defense. At least up until now. As I said earlier, jucos need to step up and some do later in the year. But at present, we aren't good on d. And our wr are marginal at best. With our schedule still hope for 5-5. ML will win here, just to what magnitude.

I?m gonna guess your both right and your source either sees things differently or were at practice on different days.

We can have 10 posters watch an actual MSU game on TV that we lose by 10 points and 5 of those posters will say we got skull drug and the other 5 will point to 3 plays that changed the game and otherwise we would?ve won.

[Homedawg]

I?m gonna guess your both right and your source either sees things differently or were at practice on different days.

We can have 10 posters watch an actual MSU game on TV that we lose by 10 points and 5 of those posters will say we got skull drug and the other 5 will point to 3 plays that changed the game and otherwise we would?ve won.

That's a good point. Could be.....But it would have to be sees things differently.......Which as you pointed out is possible. But either way the wool here is way too heavy w our D.... I remain hopeful w the offense, Kylin could be special in space .....

[TrapGame]

I just can't see us being Sirmon bad on defense. I refuse to believe we will be THAT BAD. Average, below average but not totally putrid.

[Dawgfan77]

Hope you are right. I too have sources. Mine sources and your sources disagree about defense. At least up until now. As I said earlier, jucos need to step up and some do later in the year. But at present, we aren't good on d. And our wr are marginal at best. With our schedule still hope for 5-5. ML will win here, just to what magnitude.

Our D has some holes for sure. It staff is encouraged by the progress being made. What I am saying is that we are better than what some have said. Big thing here is we are flying to the ball and practices are physical. Verbatim. "I was here under Dan and these practices are more physical than under Dan".
Another thing to point out is that during fall camp it's usually 4 weeks of practice this year it's 6 weeks. We are in installation and repping now. This being said I'm not saying we are going 10-0 but I was told we have more talent than people think.
So I agree with you to some extent and disagree with you as well. I'm just ready to kick off

[confucius say]

That's a good point. Could be.....But it would have to be sees things differently.......Which as you pointed out is possible. But either way the wool here is way too heavy w our D.... I remain hopeful w the offense, Kylin could be special in space .....

What about marks in space?

[Duckdog]

Just beat lsu, damn it

[ShotgunDawg]

I just can't see us being Sirmon bad on defense. I refuse to believe we will be THAT BAD. Average, below average but not totally putrid.

Sirmon level defense means Arnett sucks and guys are out of position.

I’ll never forget that year watching an Auburn RB run a simple flat route in the end zone and go completely uncovered.

I think our D could be like Ole Miss’ last year under McIntyre if Arnett is good. Their defense wasn’t great or good but McIntyre was good and they were substantially improved from the year before and competed.

[TrapGame]

Sirmon level defense means Arnett sucks and guys are out of position.

I’ll never forget that year watching an Auburn RB run a simple flat route in the end zone and go completely uncovered.

I think our D could be like Ole Miss’ last year under McIntyre if Arnett is good. Their defense wasn’t great or good but McIntyre was good and they were substantially improved from the year before and competed.

Exactly, Sirmon was a horrible coach. Completely clueless. I just don't see Arnett being Sirmon level.