Man could you dig any deeper into the Bible to justify being against progress and social injustice? And I knew it would only be a matter of time before you made it political and not about faith. You act as if God is just sitting back and playing Risk. I'd encourage you to try and understand humans outside of your bubble on an individual level in as much detail as you have seemed to figure out the macro. It will take some discomfort on your part, but its possible.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
Against progress? What is your definition of progress? I am not against progress if progress is the salvation of all mankind, the blessings of all people and nations, a spiritual revival, Godly laws and Godly rulers. If your definition is moral depravation, then it is not I that is against that "progress" it is God, read His word and find out for yourself. I challenge you to read the Bible front to back like you would any other book, then come back to this forum and provide your opinion of God then! I guarantee it will change, because you will change - from the inside out! I have not said anything in these posts that are even remotely racist, so what exactly are you against in my posts?
And by the way, there is nothing political about showing in God's word that He rises up nations for a specific purposes and He also brings nations down for His purpose also. You misunderstand, God is not playing risk, He is directing the nations as He wills. Nothing surprises Him as His word says, He neither slumbers or sleeps and He declares the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10). I also look at things from the macro view - in the end God wins (and the heirs to salvation - those who are born again), He puts ALL enemies under His foot - Satan, death and hell are all defeated.
You misunderstand, when I refer to the 1960s as being the start of the US moral decide I am not talking about the Civil Rights movement but of moral decline due to the US Supreme court legalizing abortions, removing prayer from school, not teaching the bible in school, not reciting the pledge of allegiance to the US, rise in mother out of wedlock, rampant drug use and addiction, same sex unions, and the transgendered movement. The decline of the US has nothing to do with race but the condition of the human soul.
As Timothy 3:105 states: "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!"
Rex doesn't really fit on the left right spectrum. As far as I can tell he mixes some "left wing" policies (authoritarianism, populism (although that's sort of becoming a right wing thing now), protectionism (also becoming right wing), anti-israel) with some "right wing" policies (closed borders (or close to it), judeo-christian based laws/rule, US first/nationalism) and maybe isolationism (which I think is pretty equally at home on either side, although with different flavors).
So God was giving the US a big ole thumbs up when we were slaughtering 1000s of native Americans or enslaving African men, women and children. And must've been grinning ear to ear with all the lynching prior to 1960. Such high morals and Christian ideals we had as a nation!
I'm not side stepping the issue, I'm telling you God care about the flag and a nation as much as he does who wins the Egg Bowl. To Him, both are just strange divisions of his people...
I have read my Bible. And You must not know it at all. Judges and Kings are about Israel, you know God's Chose people. And that was the old covenant. We are under a new covenant, where Jesus came for all nations.
And that prosperity gospel is bullshit. I'm not talking about "Only Money" I'm talking about how you are using it. It's at best ignorant of the world. There are and have been millions of good Christians that do not have "good success" and "want(ed) for essentials"... Including Paul himself... 1 Corinthians 4:11
Stop saying that it all went down in the 1960's. Like I said, it is convenient that that decline of American greatness coincides with letting women and Brown people get Rights... This is at best ignorant...
You need to learn about US history and church history.
Per your distorted "prosperity gospel" God Blessed Pagans and unbelievers more, and for longer than he blessed his chosen...
I cannot understand how China was used to punish anyone as they were an isolated nation from any Christian nation. I was talking about his blessing of China in China's Golden age before 1790. I guess they started sinning really bad about then....
Or per your prosperity gospel, God blessing Rome and the Ottomans, while they killed Christians for centuries....
The only bullshit is your purported knowledge of the bible.
No one fully understands God or His ways and we can't from our limited view of Him, in this life, explain all the purposes He has when He either builds up a nation or pronounces judgement on another. If God is so neutral in national affairs how do you explain, yes this is old testament and regarding Israel, God directing Israel to annihilate groups of people - whole nations of men, women and children, when they took over the promised land - the land filled with milk an honey. That does not fit your description of God. You see him only as Holy and merciful, which He is, but He also demands justice and as illustrated in the old testament and He does use other nations to carry out His will! He will also, at a later time, punish the nation He used to deliver punishment on His behalf. Why? One reason (we don't know the others but scripture does tell us) is because that nation went above the severity of the punishment he wanted delivered. Example, when Israel went into exile, when the Babylonians defeated Israel, ~70 years later the Assyrians defeated the Babylonians. As scripture said, this was their punishment for being cruel to Israel. Read it for yourself.
And in the New Testament, since you think the old does not apply, why does Good put a hook in the nose of the country up north (Russia) and their allies (China and others) to wage war against Israel in the book of Revelation? It is so he can cary out His anger on them and punish them - the battle of Armageddon! Read it for yourself!
Regarding the US, we don't know all of the reasons why God prospered the US as much as He did. You portray the US from its inception as a cruel evil empire that is more evil than any other nation. Have you considered the good things the US has done since its beginnings? We evangelize the world, we give monetary and material (food) aid to most countries of the world, we defend other countries with our own citizens, we police the world to keep world peace, we educate the world, we adopt orphans from around the world, we are a melting pot of different nationalities in the US as we have been the beacon of freedom the world has admired and seeks. Does any other country have the number of immigrants each year for 150+ years the US has? NO! Yes, there are periodic migrations from a war torn country to one that is not in war but over the centuries where do people from other countries want to migrate to? The US!
You see events purely from a human viewpoint and not trying to see it from God's. As Jesus told Peter when Peter rebuked Jesus for saying He was going up to Jerusalem to be abused by the elders and the chief priest, handed over to the gentiles and killed, Jesus told Him - Get behind me satan, You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”
Point being - God's ways are not our ways as His ways are higher than ours.
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I'm not the arbiter of where the line is, but I know damn well the Confederate flag ain't it.
Rhode Island's official name is "The State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations". If I was ever taught that in school, it totally slipped my mind. Anyway, they're trying to change the name of the state removing "Plantations", perhaps the entire phrase "and Providence Plantations" (which would make more sense than just "The State of Rhode Island and Providence").
https://www.foxnews.com/us/rhode-isl...y-connotations