Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
I never said anything about football teams (don't change the subject or sidestep the issue), just people and nations. You have obviously never read the book of Judges or 1 Kings and 2 Kings as there a MANY examples, if you have ears to hear and eyes that see, that GOD does indeed bless people and nations that follow him. This is not a prosperity Gospel fairytale, it is fact. But what you are confusing is prosperity to be ONLY MONEY meaning that you will become super rich. Biblical prosperity is simple. Biblical prosperity means being blessed by God. What does that mean? It means we will have what we need in this life, notice I did not say all that we want, but that we will have good success in our efforts, we will be without lack (essentials for life), he will give us favor, knowledge and understanding. Scripture also says "I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging for bread." Seed does not apply to just Israel, it also applies to Christians as we also enjoy the blessings of Abraham (see Galatians 3).

I have read what the founding fathers think but I also have seen their beliefs in actions. You need to go to wallbuilders dot com and read the book called Original Intent. I bet you didn't know that the United States Capitol regularly served as a church building; a practice that began even before Congress officially moved into the building and it lasted until well after the Civil War. Now would an atheists or anti Christian group create that practice or endorse it? I think not!

Also look at how the countries the US defeated during WWI and WWII were rebuilt. It was with US help and assistance. A lack of war is also a blessing, to have peace on every side, so Yes the US was/is blessed! But like I said in my previous post, in the 1960s the US started its slow decline in the world and it continues today - although at a faster rate.

So has God blessed China, yes, but for what purpose only time will tell. From reading the book of Revelation, I think China will be one of the nations that contributes to an army of 200 million soldiers that will attack Israel during the great tribulation. God has in the past blessed nations, evil as they may be, to increase in power and strength to discipline a godly nation that is falling away from God. He did that to Israel several times and will again, read the book of Daniel and Revelation (the day of Jacob's trouble - the great tribulation).

And just because God builds up an evil nation does not mean they get a free pass. Even Babylon was judged after God finished using them to punish Israel. China and other Godless countries (Russia) judgement is still to come.
I'm not side stepping the issue, I'm telling you God care about the flag and a nation as much as he does who wins the Egg Bowl. To Him, both are just strange divisions of his people...

I have read my Bible. And You must not know it at all. Judges and Kings are about Israel, you know God's Chose people. And that was the old covenant. We are under a new covenant, where Jesus came for all nations.

And that prosperity gospel is bullshit. I'm not talking about "Only Money" I'm talking about how you are using it. It's at best ignorant of the world. There are and have been millions of good Christians that do not have "good success" and "want(ed) for essentials"... Including Paul himself... 1 Corinthians 4:11

Stop saying that it all went down in the 1960's. Like I said, it is convenient that that decline of American greatness coincides with letting women and Brown people get Rights... This is at best ignorant...

You need to learn about US history and church history.

Per your distorted "prosperity gospel" God Blessed Pagans and unbelievers more, and for longer than he blessed his chosen...

I cannot understand how China was used to punish anyone as they were an isolated nation from any Christian nation. I was talking about his blessing of China in China's Golden age before 1790. I guess they started sinning really bad about then....

Or per your prosperity gospel, God blessing Rome and the Ottomans, while they killed Christians for centuries....