Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
Apparently not. Because it hasn't happened yet. At least not publicly. It certainly may have happened behind closed doors for all we know- but probably not since he lives in Baton Rouge. MSU has handled the media very poorly for years- and when I say years, I'm talking about since my grandfather's lifetime. It's a huge weakness for the athletic dept. And that goes for all aspects from promoting our players and preventing the media from doing harm through negative publicity. I think Dak's Heisman campaign is a huge test for MSU in that regard.
I agree that MSU handles the media very poorly. But if GP were having as negative of an effect as yall tend to portray, then I feel like it would be addressed.....or at the very least, our athletic department would not be as fond of them as they reportedly are.

Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
I'd be very interested to know what "facts" we're allegedly wrong about here. It's not like any of this is hearsay or top secret insider stuff. This is stuff that happened for all the world to see.

I don't know and I never claimed to. All I said was that I feel pretty confident that the people in our ath. dept. have a better understanding of everything that actually transpired in these situations than yall do......and if everything played out exactly the way yall say it did, then they wouldn't be so popular with our ath. dept.

1. DeVinner- he encouraged him to talk and that caused Redmond's suspension to be longer than it should have been.

So you are saying that Gene and Steve had an effect on the length of Redmond's suspension? That is completely ridiculous.

2. He broke Mackenzie Alexander's commitment too soon which caused him to get bombarded by people wanting to know if it was true and that left a bad taste in his mouth and then he went to Clemson.

Here is the way I remember that situation (according to Steve)....MA sent Steve a text saying that he had committed.....Steve put it on the board and it went viral.....then Steve got another text from him saying that he actually wasn't ready to commit yet. Obviously, I have no way of knowing how it actually happened, but based on Steve's account, he was reporting information that he got directly from MA (and he was never asked not to report it). I am going off of memory, so some of these details may be off, but the way Steve told it, it sounded more like MA got caught up in the moment on his OV and told Steve he had committed, when he wasn't actually ready to.

3. He said that Bryant's scholarship offer was gone when in fact it wasn't.

I have a feeling that Bryant's offer was gone, up until he called the staff. Hell for all we know the staff had Steve report that to send a message to Bryant and his family.

Now, that being said, I do feel like he was out of line with the comment about "Recruits taking visits that they said they wouldn't take"......he definitely shouldn't call out a recruit like that, and that definitely could have hurt us with Bryant.


4. When Kameron Wood left Ole Miss's football team- he claimed that he got and I paraphrase "what he deserved". Because he duped Steve and Gene by making them come to his press conference where he committed to Ole Miss when they thought he was coming to MSU. That didn't hurt the football team, but it's a poor reflection of someone representing MSU and not to mention totally classless. It also shows how vindictive Steve is.

5. He broke Beniquez Brown's commitment too soon stealing his day in the sun. Didn't hurt us- but it certainly could have.

There's no denying any of it. It's in black and white. All Rosebowl ever does when someone actually confronts him is he just says, "I was right and you don't know what you're talking about" and then his legion of cult members take it at face value despite the facts and then tell him how awesome he is and thanks for putting the truth out. It's actually a little bit scary.

I just don't see anything good that he has ever really done. I don't get MSU fans defending him. And while this thread is about revoking media credentials, all I really want is for some accountability. Someone needs to sit his ass down and tell him that he doesn't have the authority to call recruits liars (even if they did, and I think that's debatable in this case given the nature of recruiting) and pull their scholarship offers no matter what info he has or how he interprets the info he has. If a kid makes him "look bad"- be an adult and understand you're dealing with 18 year olds.

I agree that the tweet that called out Bryant was unacceptable. And I agree that when Steve ****s up, he should absolutely be held accountable for it.....I agree 100% with all of that. But when you start shaping narratives (#1 in your post is a clear example of this) and stating rumors as absolute fact, in order to make him and Gene look like they are detrimental to MSU athletics, I feel like you should be called on it.