Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
Really? Like he's done to Matt Stevens?
Wait -- you probably don't think he's done anything to hurt our program either, do you?
I definitely feel like someone should put Stevens in his place. But he hasn't done anything on the level that you are talking about either.

Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
No. That's just fairly solid evidence that they kissed the right asses over the years and are so ingrained into the fabric now that they can't easily be eradicated.
Bullshit. If they were costing us recruits or costing Redmond eligibility, they could be easily eradicated.

Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
Your mind is made up on this -- and ours damn sure is -- so I don't really understand what your point is? Backing De'Vinner and encouraging him to take his grossly exaggerated story public was good for MSU according to you. Got it.
Calm down......and stop trying to put words in my mouth. They definitely did not handle the De'Vinner situation well at all. I don't know any details about them encouraging him to go public, but I do remember both Gene and Steve taking up for him on the message boards in the beginning. They were naive and allowed themselves to be manipulated.....that was without a doubt a **** up, but let's not act like that had an effect on the end result of that whole deal.