The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

[dantheman4248]

Why do I keep hearing that the key to reopening the country is widespread testing? Once you show sufficient symptoms to cause you to go get tested, wouldn't you 1) know to self isolate the same way as if you got a positive test result, and 2) have already infected people?

Seems to me the key to reopening would be the antibody test.

Getting these antibody tests out widespread for everyone would do wonders for accelerating the reopening of the economy.

The problem with the math is this isn't as lethal as it was once feared to be.

My most preliminary estimate was 500k dead and people said I was talking crazy in this very thread. Pretty sure you were one who questioned my self-proclaimed super-conservative estimate of 500k to be too lethal because of the death rate being too high. 2% vs. 1% (which was still 250k)

I don't agree with everything you say but i definitely agree that this is a huge step to getting things going in the right direction. I'm reaching out to some more folks I know to see what their doing with this and if similar results are being had. It is a reason for hope.

If only more people could realize that life is not black and white and that just because someone is on the opposite end of the political spectrum doesn't mean they can have good points, debates and discourse in this country would be infinitely better.

But you can't isolate everyone who "hasn't had it"... isolate those most vulnerable and in 2 weeks move on. You won't ever know who all had it or didn't. This thing isn't going away. And like the flu, some people just don't get it. With our wo the vaccine. Just like on the Navy ship where only 12.5 % of the people had it. And 60% of those were asymptomatic

Apologies, I should have expanded and clarified that sentence. When I said isolate, I meant in terms of knowing who they are and can be preventative for those who would be at severe risk and so they can know going forward and plan accordingly.

The antibody tests are very inaccurate. That's the problem right now. China is using them with no regard to their inaccuracies. They're giving a lot of false negatives and positives.

I was under the assumption that ours were not the same as China's.

there's a lot of "right" in this post... However, I believe in lieu of supporting those that don't or can't work, we oughta just cull em from the herd....

So we both agree that there is a problem; however, we have a difference in opinion on what the.. final solution should be.*** (Todd my joke was better.)

The CDC says it's recovery in 80% of infected. To me that's pretty damn good odds.

59% chance a family of four would lose 1 member or more.
74% chance a person would lose one of their parents/grandparents (given all 6 are alive)
99.6% chance at least 1 member in a group of 25 would die.

These are given that recovery rate and that all members in the sample get the virus. I'm sorry but that's absolutely horrible odds.

You're never going to convince a guy sitting in rural Mississippi that this is bad or any different than the flu if they already have their mind made up. It doesn't take much education to look at a place like NYC and realize what the virus is capable of in both lethality and it's ability to spread. The numbers speak for themselves. You can be thankful you live in a place that is unlikely to have that type of outbreak yet still respect it for what it is.

Speaking as someone living in a somewhat bigger city, this is so apparently a truth. Having lived in both it definitely makes it easier to recognize both sides and see the biases that each creates. "Walk a mile in the other's shoes."

It's been a trip watching the evolution of responses on this thread:

- "lol it's just China, something like that could never happen here"
- "it's just a media hoax"
- "it's just the flu"
- "oh well Italy's population is old and they're all smokers and every time they have family dinner they kiss and probably lay on top of each other. Crazy Italians!"
- "nothing to worry about, we won't have 10,000 cases by the summer"
- "it was just a nursing home in Seattle"

[US starts to lead the world in cases and deaths]
- "China lied and covered everything up! It's their fault!" (see first point above for irony)
- "WHO lied, we definitely would've been fine if it wasn't for them"
- "the numbers are inflated" (even though there are a shitload more people dying in general than the past 20 years)

[cases skyrocket to 30k per day, 2.5k deaths per day, but level off]
- "see it wasn't that bad! reopen america!"

[38000 dead in a month]
- "well it's actually not that lethal"


It's early and I haven't had my coffee but I'm sure I'm forgetting some.

You must spread rep around before giving to hacker again.