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    Quote Originally Posted by BB30 View Post
    Who is he going to be throwing the ball to that isn't a sunbelt type WR? He may very well be the most talented QB in the SEC. Problem is he can't throw the ball to himself he has to have a supporting cast. Now, I do agree that we don't really know what we have in the WR department right now being that our WRs weren't necessarily used correctly the last couple of years but we still had a ton of drops which has very little to do with coaching.
    I'm reserving judgement on our WR crew. They were completely mis-used over the past two years & now will only have to learn about 25 plays & will thus play much faster.

    Not saying I'm expecting a top half of the SEC WR unit at all, but I don't think it's nearly as poor as many think. They're about to put into a system & coached like they never have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I have a sneaky suspicion that our WRs are actually better than what we've seen under Joe & we'll pick up a grad transfer that will have an impact.
    They may be better than what we have seen under Joe. That still doesn't mean they will be good enough to elevate Costello to 1st team all SEC. I mean that WR group this year was absolutely atrocious at catching the football. Even when they did get open it seemed like we had a pile of drops in big situations. We will have to find some help in this department.

    Just haven't seen enough from that group to get all to excited about who will be throwing the ball to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB30 View Post
    They may be better than what we have seen under Joe. That still doesn't mean they will be good enough to elevate Costello to 1st team all SEC. I mean that WR group this year was absolutely atrocious at catching the football. Even when they did get open it seemed like we had a pile of drops in big situations. We will have to find some help in this department.

    Just haven't seen enough from that group to get all to excited about who will be throwing the ball to them.
    IDK.

    Perhaps I'm overvaluing Leach's system & practice plan, but he's had a ton of success at repping things so much that guys get better.

    Even yesterday in his presser he talked about how he doesn't want 5 QBs because he can't rep them all. Our WRs are about to have an experienced staff with chemistry & a complete understanding of what they're doing coaching them.

    Turning meh WRs into studs is what Leach does. I think we may be pleasantly surprised.
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    Mond is severely overrated. I think Fitz is arguably a better QB.

    1st Team Postseason? I'm going 1A Newman 1B Trask simply because they will be on really good teams.

    Costello is the best pro prospect in the SEC this year and will most likely lead the league in passing yards. The key will be his health. Heathly Costello is going for 4,000 with 25/30 TDs and should definitely be in the conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    Sell. The optimism here is getting out of control. I get there's reason to be excited but I'd pull it back a bit
    So who would be your guess as post season All SEC QB instead? Pretty lean group of QBs this year. K.J. will have the numbers barring injury or complete disaster. I think he has to be the odds on favorite in part because of the field.

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    Geez, So hey guys.. everyone get ready. We are gonna beat Bama this year and might just run the table. Costello clear out your closet for all those awards coming.. Heisman.. National Championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    Geez, So hey guys.. everyone get ready. We are gonna beat Bama this year and might just run the table. Costello clear out your closet for all those awards coming.. Heisman.. National Championship.
    Weird straw man. No one is saying that here, unless I'm over looking it.

    Dak was first team All SEC in 2015 and we went 8-4. I could see something similar this year. Thinking Costello could be All SEC running a prolific passing offense in a year when the QB position seems to be down (or at least unproven) is not the same as saying we're going to run the table, win the National Championship and Costello win the Heisman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    Geez, So hey guys.. everyone get ready. We are gonna beat Bama this year and might just run the table. Costello clear out your closet for all those awards coming.. Heisman.. National Championship.
    **Amen brother!**

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    Geez, So hey guys.. everyone get ready. We are gonna beat Bama this year and might just run the table. Costello clear out your closet for all those awards coming.. Heisman.. National Championship.
    Everyone check your ring size.**

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg View Post
    Weird straw man. No one is saying that here, unless I'm over looking it.

    Dak was first team All SEC in 2015 and we went 8-4. I could see something similar this year. Thinking Costello could be All SEC running a prolific passing offense in a year when the QB position seems to be down (or at least unproven) is not the same as saying we're going to run the table, win the National Championship and Costello win the Heisman.
    The difference is Dak had a track record coming into that season as a rising senior. I don't really see a ton of media talking up Costello. I do think politics plays a lot into who gets the postseason awards.

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    The first team all sec qb will probably be the qb of whichever of FL or GA wins the East. I hope Costello has a great year but we will have to have a few upsets or he will have to set multiple SEC records for him to get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    IDK.

    Perhaps I'm overvaluing Leach's system & practice plan, but he's had a ton of success at repping things so much that guys get better.

    Even yesterday in his presser he talked about how he doesn't want 5 QBs because he can't rep them all. Our WRs are about to have an experienced staff with chemistry & a complete understanding of what they're doing coaching them.

    Turning meh WRs into studs is what Leach does. I think we may be pleasantly surprised.
    I agree that the unit should be improved. I just don't believe the raw talent is there for them to make the kind of jump some of yall are expecting. Coaching helps alot but it doesn't tell the whole story. Last years WR group regardless of being undercoached etc. was probably one of the worst units we have ever filled as far as raw talent goes. We didn't have a single guy that would have gotten reps or started at most of the other SEC schools we are trying to catch up with. It will take leach a couple of years to get the guys he needs to run this offense at the level he wants too. And that is ok. We are going to have to have some patience and not get too worked up when the first big time SEC D shuts us down next year.

    I can already see the melts and the " this isn't going to work here" excuses once we drop a game to a solid opponent. The talent just isn't there on the offensive side of the ball yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB30 View Post
    Who is he going to be throwing the ball to that isn't a sunbelt type WR? He may very well be the most talented QB in the SEC. Problem is he can't throw the ball to himself he has to have a supporting cast. Now, I do agree that we don't really know what we have in the WR department right now being that our WRs weren't necessarily used correctly the last couple of years but we still had a ton of drops which has very little to do with coaching.
    According to Mike Leach receivers dropping balls has everything to do with coaching and he says he can fix that pretty easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    According to Mike Leach receivers dropping balls has everything to do with coaching and he says he can fix that pretty easily.
    Based on his track record I believe him.

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    I'd be willing to bet a lot of the drops the past two years could be attributed to WR's struggling with the overly-complicated offense and not anticipating the ball coming their way soon enough or at the right time. I know we're not on the higher end of the talent spectrum at the position by any means, but it's hard to believe so many guys who were recruited to catch the ball struggled so badly strictly with the mechanical part of it if all other circumstances were favorable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thf24 View Post
    I'd be willing to bet a lot of the drops the past two years could be attributed to WR's struggling with the overly-complicated offense and not anticipating the ball coming their way soon enough or at the right time. I know we're not on the higher end of the talent spectrum at the position by any means, but it's hard to believe so many guys who were recruited to catch the ball struggled so badly strictly with the mechanical part of it if all other circumstances were favorable.
    We also had a culture of not working very hard and not having consequences for your actions for the past 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    We also had a culture of not working very hard and not having consequences for your actions for the past 2 years.
    I think this was the primary cause for all of our struggles in all phases of the game under Joe. Our defense in 2018 was just too good to screw up.

    To your point how many times did we have a receiver drop a pass only to trot back out there on the next play and play the majority of the game?

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