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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    I would always be cautious of a transfer QB unless he was a really special player that the whole team would buy in that he would make them way better.

    Every other position isn't that big a deal, but you can sure screw up a team on QB decisions. Sometimes even with QB's you already have.

    The QB should be THE leader on the team. I don't care what you say, the QB sets the tone for the whole team.
    Agree. I don't want Franks. I'd go with someone already in our program. We have some good QBs to choose from. I still like Shradder but Rogers, KT, Mayben. One of these guys can get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    Agree. I don't want Franks. I'd go with someone already in our program. We have some good QBs to choose from. I still like Shradder but Rogers, KT, Mayben. One of these guys can get it done.
    Maybe, but leach's most successful year at WSU was with a transfer. 3 of the 4 playoff teams had a starting qb that was a transfer. Transfers can lead to immediate success, and also, not one of our qbs was recruited as a pure pocket passer

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Maybe, but leach's most successful year at WSU was with a transfer. 3 of the 4 playoff teams had a starting qb that was a transfer. Transfers can lead to immediate success, and also, not one of our qbs was recruited as a pure pocket passer
    Yea but most of the successful transfer QBs are not ones that played a lot already and were not very good. We can quote 78% completion all day but he was average at best and Florida fans were happy to have a new starting QB. With that said, agree we should at least look at the transfer portal for a QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chef dixon View Post
    Yea but most of the successful transfer QBs are not ones that played a lot already and were not very good. We can quote 78% completion all day but he was average at best and Florida fans were happy to have a new starting QB. With that said, agree we should at least look at the transfer portal for a QB.
    He didn't fit the Florida offense, that's why they wanted a change. Similar to Tyler Russell in that offense.

    I don't really care what we do, but the one transfer Leach has had that killed it was also a guy who had played a good bit and hadn't set the world on fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    He didn't fit the Florida offense, that's why they wanted a change. Similar to Tyler Russell in that offense.

    I don't really care what we do, but the one transfer Leach has had that killed it was also a guy who had played a good bit and hadn't set the world on fire.
    As I mentioned, Trask is even less of a fit for Mullen, but he played better because he's just a better QB. Tyler Russell is a lot more comparable to Trask as far as mobility and wanting to be a pocket passer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Maybe, but leach's most successful year at WSU was with a transfer. 3 of the 4 playoff teams had a starting qb that was a transfer. Transfers can lead to immediate success, and also, not one of our qbs was recruited as a pure pocket passer
    Rogers is. Breiner has compared him to Joe Burrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Rogers is. Breiner has compared him to Joe Burrow
    Yeah, he slipped my mind. I would like to RS him at all costs if possible though

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Yeah, he slipped my mind. I would like to RS him at all costs if possible though
    Probably would have been the case if Moorhead stayed. Its not happening now. Needs to put on some weight but mentally and accuracy wise he is the best on campus

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Probably would have been the case if Moorhead stayed. Its not happening now. Needs to put on some weight but mentally and accuracy wise he is the best on campus
    This is most important trait to Leach other than intelligence. I'm not sure we have one as accurate as Leach likes other than Rogers but ... Leach probably could help some with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Yeah, he slipped my mind. I would like to RS him at all costs if possible though
    Thanks to the 4 game rule, if we get Franks (or another grad transfer), we could possibly redshirt both Rogers and Shrader, and then let the best man inherit the long-term QB role in 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Thanks to the 4 game rule, if we get Franks (or another grad transfer), we could possibly redshirt both Rogers and Shrader, and then let the best man inherit the long-term QB role in 2021.
    That's really the best case scenario. I'm wondering if Shrader needs time to develop as a team leader in light of the incident at the end of the year.

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    I understand the hesitation on Franks that some of you are feeling. Initially, I had the same thoughts. But the more I think about it, the more I am willing to accept him. Another thing, subconsciously, is Stevens being fresh on our minds. That didn't go like any of us wanted. But with Franks, even though I know he could be divisive at times, you've got to think that his mindset is, ok, this is it. If I have any chance of making it on the next level, I've got to make the most out of this opportunity. If he comes in with that mindset, all of the other stuff that we're worried about outside of just his ability to get it done, will all fall into place. Hopefully, we have a coach who can determine if that's his thinking or not. I would love to redshirt Rogers this year. I always like to compare a player such as Rogers like, what will his production be his true freshman year compared to his senior year? I'll take the senior year pretty much every time.

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    I watched Franks play in the Florida/Miami game this year he showed his ass on the field and on the sidelines. We don't need that kind of player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Rogers is. Breiner has compared him to Joe Burrow
    Coach Rogers- you laying it on a little thick arent ya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by msbulldog View Post
    I watched Franks play in the Florida/Miami game this year he showed his ass on the field and on the sidelines. We don't need that kind of player.
    He does seem like a turd. Just by his actions I've seen. I don't know the kid so I can't say for sure. But actions speak louder than words.

    Leach hates "look at me" players. He abhors any bit of selfishness
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Coach Rogers- you laying it on a little thick arent ya?
    Haha, don't think that's ole Wyatt.
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by msbulldog View Post
    I watched Franks play in the Florida/Miami game this year he showed his ass on the field and on the sidelines. We don't need that kind of player.
    Where were you on Willie Gay? When you have high talent confident kids thats something you have to deal with. We wanted Cam Newton didn?t we? You just have to trust the coach to harness that energy in the right place.
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    JMO, but it y'all are tryin' to clean up the "culture" at State, the last thing ya need to do is bring in a cat that acts like Franks...

    I was watching the game in which he got hurt and immediately thought to myself, "Lawd, Dan just caught a huge break...."
    "It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUSK View Post
    JMO, but it y'all are tryin' to clean up the "culture" at State, the last thing ya need to do is bring in a cat that acts like Franks...

    I was watching the game in which he got hurt and immediately thought to myself, "Lawd, Dan just caught a huge break...."
    Same here.

    Not once have I watched that guy & thought he could play
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Same here.

    Not once have I watched that guy & thought he could play
    So what happens when If leach brings him in? You gonna say leach is dumb or what?

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