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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Here's what I'm in favor of:

    Doing whatever we have to do to get dynamic talent.

    If our coaches think signing and placing Alex Adams gives us the best chance to get him either now or later, then that's what we should do.

    You know who wins games? Teams with dynamic talent. I couldn't careless if we have 80 guys on scholarship or 85. Doesn't matter to me because those last 5 guys don't win or lose you games. Get impact players however you gotta do it. That's what wins games.

    You know I'm right. So don't even attempt to argue this point.
    I don't disagree. My thing is I look at recruiting spots like draft picks. And if you don't use a spot in a recruiting class you are wasting a pick. To me, I'd rather take a chance on a guy that's "marginal" that really wants to be at MSU than not use a spot on a guy. And in this case I'd rather sign and place a guy than not use a spot for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I don't disagree. My thing is I look at recruiting spots like draft picks. And if you don't use a spot in a recruiting class you are wasting a pick. To me, I'd rather take a chance on a guy that's "marginal" that really wants to be at MSU than not use a spot on a guy. And in this case I'd rather sign and place a guy than not use a spot for that matter.
    If signing Adams actually improves our chances of getting him, then I look at it as trading a draft pick to move up.

    I get your point, and while there is some value with those last spots, it's just not near enough.
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    The days of more loyalty to a program for signing and placing kids is gone. Way gone.

    If Adams goes to JUCO, in 2 years he will go through recruiting process just like this year and like every other kid in the country does. That's why no one is signing grade risks anymore except for Mullen. He lost multiple top ranked players out of his class last year due to grades.

    There's zero point in committing a for sure sign and place kid. Zero. Now if he's not for sure and you think you can get him on board with the right amount of work, I would be more amenable to that. But if he's 100% JUCO bound, there's no point. Like I said, loyalty is nothing anymore when it comes to recruiting. It's a business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    The days of more loyalty to a program for signing and placing kids is gone. Way gone.

    If Adams goes to JUCO, in 2 years he will go through recruiting process just like this year and like every other kid in the country does. That's why no one is signing grade risks anymore except for Mullen. He lost multiple top ranked players out of his class last year due to grades.

    There's zero point in committing a for sure sign and place kid. Zero. Now if he's not for sure and you think you can get him on board with the right amount of work, I would be more amenable to that. But if he's 100% JUCO bound, there's no point. Like I said, loyalty is nothing anymore when it comes to recruiting. It's a business.
    You are incorrect. Merry Christmas friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    If signing Adams actually improves our chances of getting him, then I look at it as trading a draft pick to move up.

    I get your point, and while there is some value with those last spots, it's just not near enough.
    I don't view signing and placing Adams as a wasted spot. Just not using them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I don't view signing and placing Adams as a wasted spot. Just not using them.
    Yes yes yes

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    Ari and IYOK, have missed your updates on this thread. Just by reading our remaining targets on 24/7, there are hardly any players that are even warm to signing with us. Got any news? Thanks.

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    just an interesting tidbit - L. Griffin working at corner in the under armor game practices

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    just an interesting tidbit - L. Griffin working at corner in the under armor game practices
    With Emerson, J Jones & Tyler Williams being young along with getting Forbes, i don't think we can spare a body at WR.

    That being said, if J Jones is better at WR than CB & Griffin is better at CB than WR, then it may make some sense to switch them.

    It does make me a little nervous though that our best WR signee isn't even good enough to play WR in the UA game.
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    Know it?s early but who do we think have the greatest chance of asking for a release of their LOI or current player transfers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vv83 View Post
    Know it?s early but who do we think have the greatest chance of asking for a release of their LOI or current player transfers?
    Not being naive, but I don't think there is anyone obvious. I'm sure you'll hear stuff, but it's meaningless until the new coach is hired & has a chance to sit down with the recruits, players, & families
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    Weren't we the best offer for a vast majority of our signees?

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    Forbes and Marks have said this doesn't change their plans, I think those are the 2 highest rated players in this class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msbulldog View Post
    Forbes and Marks have said this doesn't change their plans, I think those are the 2 highest rated players in this class.
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    Our admin has done a very good job disseminating information to our signees and are doing a great job keeping them informed on the process. We should be good with our class.

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    I dunno CC, Forbes found out on twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msbulldog View Post
    I dunno CC, Forbes found out on twitter.
    It all happened pretty fast, but I know for a fact the signees have been spoken to personally and like what they have heard.

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    Walley said he talked to Brad Peterson this morning and Peterson told him we'd have a new HC within a week. Sounds like the message is staying the same from the remaining recruiting staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Walley said he talked to Brad Peterson this morning and Peterson told him we'd have a new HC within a week. Sounds like the message is staying the same from the remaining recruiting staff.
    I know Jaden very well and he's extremely excited about the future at MSU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Walley said he talked to Brad Peterson this morning and Peterson told him we'd have a new HC within a week. Sounds like the message is staying the same from the remaining recruiting staff.
    I really hope our new coach finds an on-field spot for brad

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