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    I don't believe the NCAA allows you to sign and place anymore. That doesn't mean we won't place Adams at Co-Lin. He just may not be in the class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I don't believe the NCAA allows you to sign and place anymore. That doesn't mean we won't place Adams at Co-Lin. He just may not be in the class.
    Nothing they can do to stop it. But the league limit basically makes it impossible unless you only have a very limited number of scholarships to give

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Nothing they can do to stop it. But the league limit basically makes it impossible unless you only have a very limited number of scholarships to give
    The NCAA rule is you get 25 new schollys each year. If they make it to campus or not... "sign and place" or offering marginal qualifiers is all but dead.
    Last edited by Leroy Jenkins; 12-18-2019 at 10:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    The NCAA rule is you get 25 new schollys each year. If they make it to campus or not... "sign and place" or offering marginal qualifiers is all but dead.
    Penn st signed 27 today

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Penn st signed 27 today
    We can sign 26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    The NCAA rule is you get 25 new schollys each year. If they make it to campus or not... "sign and place" or offering marginal qualifiers is all but dead.
    First, that's an sec rule as far as signing. The 25 rule for scholarships is no different than it has been in forever..... Second, for the sec , All but dead and allowing it are two different things. Clearly you didn't read my post very well.

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    Deontae Lawson puts us in his top 10. 4 star OLB out of Mobile. Has a lot of solid teams in his Top 10.

    Any chances there?? Would be a big get for Moorhead pulling that one off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Deontae Lawson puts us in his top 10. 4 star OLB out of Mobile. Has a lot of solid teams in his Top 10.

    Any chances there?? Would be a big get for Moorhead pulling that one off.
    I'm sure a blue blood will find a spot for him and we'll never hear of him again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    First, that's an sec rule as far as signing.
    Its an SEC rule because it is an NCAA rule..... so, yeah, it is an SEC rule.

    https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/reports/getReport/90008

    13.9.3.3 Limitation on Number of National Letter of Intent/Offer of Financial Aid Signings -- Bowl
    Subdivision Football. [FBS] In bowl subdivision football, there shall be an annual limit of 25 on the number of
    prospective student-athletes who may sign a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid and studentathletes who may sign a financial aid agreement for the first time. [D] (effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after 8/1/17)

    13.9.3.3.1 Application. [FBS] A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent or an
    institutional offer of financial aid or a student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid
    will be initially provided in the fall term of an academic year shall count toward the annual limit on signings for that
    academic year. A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial
    aid or a student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided during
    the second or third term of the academic year may count toward the limit for that academic year or the limit for the
    next academic year. (Adopted: 1/14/12 effective 8/1/12, Revised: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after
    8/1/17)

    ETA: if you sign a non-qualifier that scholly is tied up until the next term regardless of if the kid qualifies or not. Hence, the sign and place practice = dead.
    Last edited by Leroy Jenkins; 12-19-2019 at 08:08 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Penn st signed 27 today
    The 25 limit is for first-time enrolls, per calendar year; so as long as they had two unused schollys leftover from the previous year (and those two enroll before 2020) they count against the 2019 class not 2020.

    ETA: A grad transfer also wouldn't count toward the 25 since they are not first-time awardees, they only count against the 85..... I think.
    Last edited by Leroy Jenkins; 12-19-2019 at 07:38 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    The 25 limit is for first-time enrolls, per calendar year; so as long as they had two unused schollys leftover from the previous year (and those two enroll before 2020) they count against the 2019 class not 2020.

    ETA: A grad transfer also wouldn't count toward the 25 since they are not first-time awardees, they only count against the 85..... I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I'm sure a blue blood will find a spot for him and we'll never hear of him again.
    Such an inferiority complex

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    Quote Originally Posted by StateDawg44 View Post
    Such an inferiority complex
    Not really. Just pointing out the stupidity of the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Not really. Just pointing out the stupidity of the system.
    Just make him feel appreciated. Nothing complicated and have him visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Not really. Just pointing out the stupidity of the system.
    Yeah but Mobile is less than 20 miles from MS. So it's basically MS. So 9 out of 10 times we should get a kid like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Not really. Just pointing out the stupidity of the system.

    Whatever is convenient for your complaint in this hour I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StateDawg44 View Post
    Whatever is convenient for your complaint in this hour I guess.
    Well you're complaining about me. What's the difference?

    You're just as negative if not more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Well you're complaining about me. What's the difference?

    You're just as negative if not more.
    Where in my two posts is there even one complaint? I called you out for making a post similar to what me and others were arguing with you about in another thread.

    Then you deflected.

    Then I stated you like to change your narrative to fit whatever it is you are posting about this time. No complaints here. These are facts.

    I'm pretty sure everyone here knows who is more negative and complains more. What a joke that comment is.

    It is true the main thing I'm really ever negative on here towards is you or other dumb comments. I don't deny that. It seems you bring out the worst in people. Kudos to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StateDawg44 View Post
    Where in my two posts is there even one complaint? I called you out for making a post similar to what me and others were arguing with you about in another thread.

    Then you deflected.

    Then I stated you like to change your narrative to fit whatever it is you are posting about this time. No complaints here. These are facts.

    I'm pretty sure everyone here knows who is more negative and complains more. What a joke that comment is.

    It is true the main thing I'm really ever negative on here towards is you or other dumb comments. I don't deny that. It seems you bring out the worst in people. Kudos to you.
    I can't imagine waking up every day and worrying about a message board poster being negative.

    That life must suck.
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    I'll out-negative both of you... now back to recruiting, what's our target board look like starting with long shots to actually got a good shot?

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