Signing Day Thoughts

[ShotgunDawg]

- Pretty damn good job by Moorhead to lock up all the commits this year. Hopefully that will afford them some extra time to chase some bigger fish in February. Really need to get Cooper.

- The lack of drama great, but we need to be in the game with bigger recruits & create more drama. Many times lack of drama means you're not competing for players with the big boys. That needs to change

- On that same note, I'm looking to see what Moorhead does in the 2021 class. It'll be his 3rd year & he's supposed to be a "relationship guy; meaning that after developing relationships with big time prospects for 3 years, if JoMo is not able to get us into the top 20 in the recruiting rankings, it's probably never going to happen.

- Not sure why it's so difficult for 247 to get the in-state players in the correct order. We can argue about 3 star or 4 star all day, but it shouldn't be too difficult to at least getting the players in a semi-correct order in the state. It'll be interesting to see how it's adjusted following the MS/AL game. https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Fo...chool&State=MS

- Like out class this year, especially in a down talent year in MS. That being said, this feels like an 8 win class to me with good coaching(Which we don't have). Taking the next step as a program did not happen today, but remaining competitive for mid-level bowl games did. Again, 2021 is Moorhead's 3rd year. His ability to develop relationships has to show next year or it looks like we'll be stuck as long as he's the coach.

- The Lane train may get going at some point, but in looking at their first 7 games next year along with this recruiting class, he'll have to dig OM out of a hole to say the least.

- Along that same note, with OM's DL issues, we may be about to see a record amount of money spent on a recruit in McKinley Jackson. If Jackson signs with OM, we'll know what happened because there is absolutely no reason an undecided DL recruit would choose OM over LSU right now. Not possible. I'm guess his offer will supersede to AJ Brown offer.

- I saw where Maryland just flipped a 5 star WR. How come other schools appears to be able to do that but never us? For goodness sakes, we need a few of these WR recruits to pan out.

- Turned on the Chris Brooks show for 5 minutes only to hear 2 people including a host refer to spreading the talent around as socialist & communist. Again, and I've said numerous times, there are no dumber college football fans that those calling rules & policies that lead to more parity in the sport socialist & communist. Just a absolutely stupid, ignorant comment that displays a complete lack of understanding about what makes sports & entertainment work.

[msstate7]

We need to be progressing in recruiting like Frost is doing at Nebraska.

National rank (4-stars or better)...
2016 - 26th (4)
2017 - 23rd (4)
2018 - 23rd (6) ... frost first class on short time
2019 - 18th (7)
2020 - 17th (10)

Getting close to that top 15 mark and getting more 4-stars every year. This is a realistic goal for us.

Now it's time for frost to do it on the field next season.

[ShotgunDawg]

We need to be progressing in recruiting like Frost is doing at Nebraska.

National rank (4-stars or better)...
2016 - 26th (4)
2017 - 23rd (4)
2018 - 23rd (6) ... frost first class on short time
2019 - 18th (7)
2020 - 17th (10)

Getting close to that top 15 mark and getting more 4-stars every year. This is a realistic goal for us.

Now it's time for frost to do it on the field next season.

Absolutely. Again, Joe is a "relationship guy". That's his calling card.

If that's the case, then in year 3's recruiting class (2021) we need to see progress in the rankings & his ability to get us in the game with higher ranked guys

[Jarius]

Well this year's recruiting class is much more impressive than last year's. He is going to have a lower rated class but not by much and there is about a third of the in state high end talent this year. Next year should be a top 20 class if he is worth his salt.

[ShotgunDawg]

Well this year's recruiting class is much more impressive than last year's. He is going to have a lower rated class but not by much and there is about a third of the in state high end talent this year. Next year should be a top 20 class if he is worth his salt.

I don't disagree. He made the most out of a down year, except not getting in the game with Jackson.

2021 has to be top 20 or I just won't be able to figure out what Joe does well enough to take MSU to the next level

Stoops progression at UK gives me hope

[HoopsDawg]

Well this year's recruiting class is much more impressive than last year's. He is going to have a lower rated class but not by much and there is about a third of the in state high end talent this year. Next year should be a top 20 class if he is worth his salt.

Juco's really saved us this year.

[ShotgunDawg]

Juco's really saved us this year.

The good news on that end is that our early season schedule is lighter this coming year. Hopefully that gives them time to figure things out without costing us

[Jarius]

Juco's really saved us this year.

Well JUCOS are a large part of who we are as a program. Always have and always will be. We signed 6 this year. When you sign as many as we did in 17 you're going to have to continue that cycle every 2 years because of the quick turnover in juco products. I do not understand why we signed Caleb Ducking, but maybe he will work out. Other than that every single one looks to be a big time player. Key is probably the least known one outside of Ducking and he is going to be a monster IMO.

[ShotgunDawg]

Well JUCOS are a large part of who we are as a program. Always have and always will be. We signed 6 this year. When you sign as many as we did in 17 you're going to have to continue that cycle every 2 years because of the quick turnover in juco products. I do not understand why we signed Caleb Ducking, but maybe he will work out. Other than that every single one looks to be a big time player. Key is probably the least known one outside of Ducking and he is going to be a monster IMO.

I like the signing of Ducking for 2 reasons:

1. Our coaches worked him out at camp & like him enough to go all in. That means he checks the boxes on athleticism, size, & hands.

2. If we were going to take a chance at a position, WR is the correct position to take a chance at.

[RocketDawg]

What's our "star count" in today's early signing?

[Jarius]

I like the signing of Ducking for 2 reasons:

1. Our coaches worked him out at camp & like him enough to go all in. That means he checks the boxes on athleticism, size, & hands.

2. If we were going to take a chance at a position, WR is the correct position to take a chance at.

He has great size but he looks mighty slow to me for an SEC receiver. He is a long strider though so I'm sure he is faster than he looks. Hope he proves me wrong.

[vv83]

What's our "star count" in today's early signing?

Depends which service you use but I'll go with 5: Tulu, Heath, Marks, Davis, and Forbes

[Ari Gold]

Juco's really saved us this year.

Not like it did a few years ago..
And we should get 3-5 jucos every year if they are difference makers

[HailStateSZN19]

He has great size but he looks mighty slow to me for an SEC receiver. He is a long strider though so I'm sure he is faster than he looks. Hope he proves me wrong.

Did Ducking not get clocked sub-4.5 at our camp this summer? Pretty sure he’s got really good speed to be 6’4”.

[vv83]

He has great size but he looks mighty slow to me for an SEC receiver. He is a long strider though so I'm sure he is faster than he looks. Hope he proves me wrong.

So was Bear. Ducking is about 20 pounds lighter than him out of HS so a bit different body type so let's take a shot and see what happens

[Irondawg]

I do wish we could have held onto J. Brown as an OLB prospect. I thought maybe he'd delay until February but he did sign.

K. Bullock also got back in the OM boat. I liked him as well but I guess we were full at RB.

Don't like that Ducking isn't getting here until June. That makes him a RS for sure probably

[Bodawg]

Did Ducking not get clocked sub-4.5 at our camp this summer? Pretty sure he’s got really good speed to be 6’4”.

This is correct. Ducking was very impressive at camp. He just played in a system that does not pass much.

[ShotgunDawg]

He has great size but he looks mighty slow to me for an SEC receiver. He is a long strider though so I'm sure he is faster than he looks. Hope he proves me wrong.

Agree, but at least he's big. If he were big & fast, he would've been a 4/5 star WR. We'll see what he can do. If the body control is there, maybe he'll be good.

Again, it's the correct position to take a chance at

[ShotgunDawg]

Depends which service you use but I'll go with 5: Tulu, Heath, Marks, Davis, and Forbes

I think a few guys get bumps to 4 stars.

Cooley & Pegues are definitely 4 stars & I believe Rogers could be a 4 star as well. From watching him a few times this year, he's got a chance to be a quality SEC QB

[ShotgunDawg]

So was Bear. Ducking is about 20 pounds lighter than him out of HS so a bit different body type so let's take a shot and see what happens

Bear also wasn't great in the air. He was good at blocking out.

If Ducking can win some jump balls, then I'll gladly give up the 20 lbs