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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    It really has been. We have 20 commits and 18 are from MS. Then you have Marks from GA, and Key for a Juco in Cali. Honestly, we are the best offer for most of our commits.

    But joe is a way better recruiter....

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    Ring a ding ding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambone View Post
    Ring a ding ding!
    We got the kicker transfer I mentioned. He's got 2 years here. Hopefully he can kick it in the end zone.

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    Can anyone on this board name a high profile kid that we've gotten in the last decade from out of state? Marks is a Top 150 kid with legitimate offers from top tier SEC schools. Mullen never got that.

    Our fan base is insufferable. We are ranked 20th right now and will get 4-7 more kids on board. Moorhead is doing what he needs to do to elevate us some in recruiting. And in a down year talent wise in the state with some of the top talent potentially going juco, he's got us in a decent position. We should finish Top 10 in the SEC because we will NEVER finish ahead of Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, and TAMU. So best case scenario is 7th. And we will always be in the same as SC, Tennessee, and OM. So 7-10 is where we need to be and that's where we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Can anyone on this board name a high profile kid that we've gotten in the last decade from out of state? Marks is a Top 150 kid with legitimate offers from top tier SEC schools. Mullen never got that.

    Our fan base is insufferable. We are ranked 20th right now and will get 4-7 more kids on board. Moorhead is doing what he needs to do to elevate us some in recruiting. And in a down year talent wise in the state with some of the top talent potentially going juco, he's got us in a decent position. We should finish Top 10 in the SEC because we will NEVER finish ahead of Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, and TAMU. So best case scenario is 7th. And we will always be in the same as SC, Tennessee, and OM. So 7-10 is where we need to be and that's where we are.
    The most encouraging thing to me at this point is we are ahead of where we were last year before the All-Star games start. Meaning I'm expecting at least a couple of guys to go up. My only complaint this year so far is not landing Xavier Hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    But joe is a way better recruiter....
    Through his first 2 seasons he’s recruited better than Dan, facts are there. Maybe he’ll learn how to coach they up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Can anyone on this board name a high profile kid that we've gotten in the last decade from out of state? Marks is a Top 150 kid with legitimate offers from top tier SEC schools. Mullen never got that.

    Our fan base is insufferable. We are ranked 20th right now and will get 4-7 more kids on board. Moorhead is doing what he needs to do to elevate us some in recruiting. And in a down year talent wise in the state with some of the top talent potentially going juco, he's got us in a decent position. We should finish Top 10 in the SEC because we will NEVER finish ahead of Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, and TAMU. So best case scenario is 7th. And we will always be in the same as SC, Tennessee, and OM. So 7-10 is where we need to be and that's where we are.
    We were 11th last year in a historic year of miss talent. Was that a failure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    Through his first 2 seasons he’s recruited better than Dan, facts are there. Maybe he’ll learn how to coach they up.
    Lol... compare recent to recent.
    2012 - 22nd
    2013 - 24th
    2014 - 36th
    2015 - 18th
    2016 - 28th
    2017 - 24th
    2018 - 27th
    2019 - 24th

    There's been no real appreciable difference in recruiting

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    We were 11th last year in a historic year of miss talent. Was that a failure?
    I would say disappointing. That first full year of recruiting is harder across the board for any new head coach. A lot of times you can keep the class you walk into together and he did that. It's the next year that's so tough. Think Mullen's first full year of recruiting his class was in the 40s so there's precedent there. But I would have liked to have gotten 1 or 2 more kids like a Mingo.

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    Is there any chance with Xavier Hill now or has LSU locked that up?

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    Hill is done. No shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Lol... compare recent to recent.
    2012 - 22nd
    2013 - 24th
    2014 - 36th
    2015 - 18th
    2016 - 28th
    2017 - 24th
    2018 - 27th
    2019 - 24th

    There's been no real appreciable difference in recruiting
    Good job by Dan of taking advantage of 2014.**

    The biggest difference is we are filling our spots better. We’re not neglecting position groups. We get killed every year because we have all freshmen and sophomores at certain position groups and we get exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Good job by Dan of taking advantage of 2014.**

    The biggest difference is we are filling our spots better. We’re not neglecting position groups. We get killed every year because we have all freshmen and sophomores at certain position groups and we get exposed.
    Not as high as we hoped but 2015 was his best class the cycle after the #1 ranking. Then back to normal
    Last edited by Really Clark?; 12-09-2019 at 11:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Lol... compare recent to recent.
    2012 - 22nd
    2013 - 24th
    2014 - 36th
    2015 - 18th
    2016 - 28th
    2017 - 24th
    2018 - 27th
    2019 - 24th

    There's been no real appreciable difference in recruiting
    No one ever said Joe was going to pulling in top 10 classes year after year..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    I would say disappointing. That first full year of recruiting is harder across the board for any new head coach. A lot of times you can keep the class you walk into together and he did that. It's the next year that's so tough. Think Mullen's first full year of recruiting his class was in the 40s so there's precedent there. But I would have liked to have gotten 1 or 2 more kids like a Mingo.
    The big miss last year as Bryan Young. And if Baker had stayed with the staff we prob end up with him
    And Charles Moore as we all see now was a good miss ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    The big miss last year as Bryan Young. And if Baker had stayed with the staff we prob end up with him
    And Charles Moore as we all see now was a good miss ..
    I've known Byron since he was in kindegarten and my youngest son grew up playing with Byron and they're great friends, still talk quite often. Byron and his parents loved Saban, we weren't getting him. He really liked Moorhead and Baker and wavered a tad but he was never really close to flipping(of course Baker going to Bama cemented the deal even more). Just a side note, Byron and his family did not like Mullen at all and that turned him off State to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    No one ever said Joe was going to pulling in top 10 classes year after year..
    Yeah while the rankings are similar Joe has worked harder at balancing the position groups and classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Yeah while the rankings are similar Joe has worked harder at balancing the position groups and classes.
    And the fact that Joe himself is greatly involved in the recruiting process, and what he expects from his staff..
    the biggest problem is the support and resources that the football program is allowed and has.. Its amazing how far behind we are in that area..

    We can save that for another thread .. no need to bog down the recruiting thread with that.. it gets bogged down enough already with bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    And the fact that Joe himself is greatly involved in the recruiting process, and what he expects from his staff..
    the biggest problem is the support and resources that the football program is allowed and has.. Its amazing how far behind we are in that area..

    We can save that for another thread .. no need to bog down the recruiting thread with that.. it gets bogged down enough already with bullshit
    Agree on all! Always appreciate your info!

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